~Edmonton Colder Than Carbonite list Ideas!

GingerBalls wrote:Potential list for the tubbs:

Nomads
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Group 1 10 0 0
IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71)
MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39)
INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
TSYKLON Spitfire, Marker / Electric Pulse. (1 | 33)
TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (22)
TOMCAT Doctor Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (22)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)

Group 2 1 0 0
SALYUT (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (8)

5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 5

I dunno if I like it. You have a lot of points in specialists that are fragile. Your LT is obviously the mobile bridgada. And your intruder sniper while good is probably never going to help contest a zone directly (killing opponents in zones helps but moving him into one from a sniper perch is probably not going to happen). Even if you just left an alguacil without FO then your opponent has to guess if its him or the MB.

So I ran my new list against Brian last night. It was... Super effective.

Sorry Brian, that Morat vanguard mook is getting a medal for passing 5 arm saves and getting three crits...

Aegwymourn wrote:

GingerBalls wrote:Potential list for the tubbs:

Nomads
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Group 1 10 0 0
IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71)
MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39)
INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
TSYKLON Spitfire, Marker / Electric Pulse. (1 | 33)
TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (22)
TOMCAT Doctor Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (22)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)

Group 2 1 0 0
SALYUT (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (8)

5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 5

I dunno if I like it. You have a lot of points in specialists that are fragile. Your LT is obviously the mobile bridgada. And your intruder sniper while good is probably never going to help contest a zone directly (killing opponents in zones helps but moving him into one from a sniper perch is probably not going to happen). Even if you just left an alguacil without FO then your opponent has to guess if its him or the MB.

My only issue is that all of my specialists are squishy in nomads unless I take a mobile brigaga or intruder hacker which are a ton of points and also models I don't have. I'll see if I can squeeze in some alternatives saving points on alguaciles.

Well my point was maybe just not bring as many? Thats the point of the tubby list. You are primarily concerned about zone control. Any specialist after that can open the boxes even at a penalty. But you want to make sure you take zones first and foremost. Your list has 70 points on specialists when one would suffice. Even the Alguacils will open boxes, might just take an order or two. Don't Nomads have an FO camo/TOcamo duder? Would totally slot him in to open your opponents boxes first and then just hold zones. Worry about opening your boxes turn 2-3.

Your other list can be for highly classified.

I do hear you on model availability and painting time. just my opinions

Paz wrote:So I ran my new list against Brian last night. It was... Super effective.

Sorry Brian, that Morat vanguard mook is getting a medal for passing 5 arm saves and getting three crits...

To be fair to Brian he's still learning the game. Also combined is hard to play against since they have a bunch of weird shit nobody else does (like Tohaa!).

Jeez 5 arm saves and 3 crits.

How about this:

Nomads
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Group 1 10 0 0
IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71)
MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39)
INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
TSYKLON Spitfire, Marker / Electric Pulse. (1 | 33)
SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (32)
TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (22)
TOMCAT Doctor Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (22)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)
JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (13)

Group 2 2 0 0
SALYUT (EVO Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 13)
SALYUT (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (8)

4.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 5

I likes it better.

edit: Just a point to check the Specter can't be a marker and contribute his points to a zone though?

Aegwymourn wrote:I likes it better.

edit: Just a point to check the Specter can't be a marker and contribute his points to a zone though?

Camo markers count. Equipment markers do not.

Mission specific lists got me thinking and for transmission matrix it would be really nice to have duel Interventors for antenna control. So this:

Nomads
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Group 1 10 0 0
MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (39)
INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (32)
INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
TSYKLON Spitfire, Marker / Electric Pulse. (1 | 33)
TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (22)
TOMCAT Doctor Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (22)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)

Group 2 2 0 0
HELLCAT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
SALYUT (EVO Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 13)

4.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 5

Could also replace the Alguaciles with jaguars for the same cost. Smoke grenades and chain rifles.

Aegwymourn wrote:

Paz wrote:So I ran my new list against Brian last night. It was... Super effective.

Sorry Brian, that Morat vanguard mook is getting a medal for passing 5 arm saves and getting three crits...

To be fair to Brian he's still learning the game. Also combined is hard to play against since they have a bunch of weird shit nobody else does (like Tohaa!).

Jeez 5 arm saves and 3 crits.

Well yeah, I mean m my dice were silly, and Brian is still learning of course.

What I meant was that the synergy of my force meant that even on highly classified, I had no worries about achieving any objectives, while still being a viably dangerous offensive force

Good to hear.

Have to see how they hold up to Tohaa at some point

Paz wrote:So I ran my new list against Brian last night. It was... Super effective.

Sorry Brian, that Morat vanguard mook is getting a medal for passing 5 arm saves and getting three crits...

Lol well i will just have to make sure i coup de grace him next time with extreme prejudice....

Here's my list I've decided on:

PanOceania
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Group 1 10 0 0
FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
BOLT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (22)
BOLT Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
BOLT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24)
AQUILA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (58)
SWISS GUARD Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 69)
AKAL COMMANDO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0.5 | 28)
NISSE MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)

6 SWC | 298 Points

Open with Army 5

I decided i wasnt getting enough mileage out of the Father Knight and the hexa with only a combi seemed like a bit of a waste. So i splurged for the aquila and added another fusilier. I feel like over all it gives me another visor to help deal with lists that enjoy their smoke and -6 bs too much.

It will help a great deal with the camo spam. Too bad he's not the HMG version.

I dunno if I likes it. Seems like you have to hope your key models get work done. And consistently. The Swiss and Aquila eat up points. Then again they wreck face

I hate that Swiss guard.

Alright, I think I've settled on my 2nd list, capturing zones, so high points, and tough!

Combined Army
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Group 1 10 0 0
CHARONTID Lieutenant (Multispectral Visor L3) HMG, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 79)
SOGARAT Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 57)
UMBRA LEGATE Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Boarding Shotgun, Flash Pulse / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 43)
SHROUDED MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 31)
MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (23)
KURGAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (17)
MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (15)
MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (15)
IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)

5.5 SWC | 298 Points

No Anathematic again, I see.