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Post  superdeuxlol Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:55 pm

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Post  Lore Weaver Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:02 pm

You're puny lvl 3 psyker Daemon prince ... :-)

Edit: I think I like your other list better, not enough scoring here, even with a portalglyph.
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:22 pm

I thought you were joking?
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Post  Planes Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:32 pm

Starting to miss that Gloom Prism more and more.
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Post  Lore Weaver Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:48 pm

Dallas, once I get that Tau stuff put together, I'd like to kick the tires against something like this list. (if you're up for it)
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Post  Aegwymourn Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:56 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:Dallas, once I get that Tau stuff put together, I'd like to kick the tires against something like this list.  (if you're up for it)

Magnets! Do the magnets! Otherwise you'll hate yourself later.

They are super easy as well.
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Post  GingerBalls Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:57 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:Dallas, once I get that Tau stuff put together, I'd like to kick the tires against something like this list.  (if you're up for it)

I would love a batrep for this match-up if you manage to beat it. I understand how to beat it in theory but it's a little harder in practice.
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Post  Aegwymourn Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:58 pm

If you want Dallas I could run my Tau+farsight against it?
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Post  superdeuxlol Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:18 pm

I smell earth caste...
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:28 pm

So is this your official list? I really need to know
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Post  Roland Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:42 pm

Hey Dallas.....shouldn't they be battlewagons?
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:48 pm

Why wont anyone answer me? Just tell me !
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Post  Aegwymourn Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:01 pm

System Commander wrote:Why wont anyone answer me? Just tell me !

Dallas suggested to me that he would be bringing something other than this. You'd have to double check with him though.
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:02 pm

Ok.. well since you're not answering ill assume this is your list. I dont understand why you'd say you're joking.. and then actually bring it. Unless youre doing it to get a rise out.of people .. which in this case is only me.

Aside from any goofiness issues.. i really need to know how you plan on casting 20 psychic powers a turn.. (with a possibility a d3 extra?) combined with rerolling almost every dice roll you have to make and getting your games done in time. I dont see it happening at all.
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Post  superdeuxlol Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:15 pm

Sorry Robyn I got busy at work. If I knew that you needed to know I would have not pissed around so much lol I will be using my orkrons v2 that I posted awhile ago.
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Post  Aegwymourn Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:20 pm

System Commander wrote:Ok.. well since you're not answering ill assume this is your list. I dont understand why you'd say you're joking.. and then actually bring it. Unless youre doing it to get a rise out.of people .. which in this case is only me.

Aside from any goofiness issues.. i really need to know how you plan on casting 20 psychic powers a turn.. (with a possibility a d3 extra?) combined with rerolling almost every dice roll you have to make and getting your games done in time. I dont see it happening at all.

Isn't that a little overly negative? Also isn't the Army List forum specifically for people to get constructive criticism on potential lists?
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:28 pm

? I dont see how you can cast that many powers in a tourney setting.

Im making the assuption this is his list for tomm since hes implied that.. he said it in the other thread and then put it up here.

And come on..  he didnt ask for critique.. hes trying.to ruffle feathers and now he did. You really dont have to remind me of the forum rules i created.
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:40 pm

Ok.. thanks Dallas. Sorry.. just noticed your reply.

I do get concerned about time issues. Id be asking the same thing if some one was bringing 200 orks. Freondly games.. have at er. 1 1/2 hour games.. tighten it up !
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:49 pm

Dallas is a great guy to play against .. so id have no problem trying it out. But.. just thinking about watching you roll those powers every turn.. i think it would begin to stress me out after turn 2. I know alot of those dont actually get used.. but alot would.

I do think Belakor is great. Hed be able to help out an army of berserkers reliably.
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Post  superdeuxlol Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:50 pm

It's no problem Robyn. I had been considering this list and had showed it to Mark in our game on Wednesday for feedback. I have continued waffling and am nearly certain the ork list will be the one I bring but I am not getting the extra 2 points anyhow so I figured I'd bring up this list as well. And yes I know time constraints are a thing! I figured whichever list I take I probably won't get a full 5 turns in unless I'm really pushing the speed but I imagine the orks will be worse. I probably would aim for games to be done around turn 3 or 4 with that many orks. Get on those objectives and hope they don't clear me out before time in the round is called =P Not that I would purposefully play slow but moving ~100 models takes time!
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:06 pm

I really believe for tournaments you have to consider time and make an effort to play a faster list. The goal should always be a 6 turn game.. with 5 as a sad consolation. 4 turns is so incomplete.. Sad
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Post  Aegwymourn Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:24 pm

But that is the thing Robyn, this is my tournament. Do you think I'd let someone slow play during my event? I expect to be walking around the whole time making sure things go smoothly. If someone doesn't complete their turns in a reasonable fashion there is going to be problems for everyone that I have to deal with. It is my responsibility to make sure that people's lists are checked and that things go as smoothly as possible. 

Dallas shouldn't have to disclose his list early because another player in the tournament might potentially have a problem with it. Now he has to worry about people changing their list to counter his.
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Post  Lore Weaver Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:43 pm

We played 5 turns in 3 hours with a considerable amount of time taken up by random jibber jabber.

If you stay focused Dallas, you should get six turns in the 2:45/round.

In your defense, a lot of that time was taken by me trying to speed up my psychic play.  ||  I haz props now!

Also, I'm def-tots not losing the rematch!  *flex*

Edit: 2:30 :-) Dallas, gotta move those Ork's quickly!
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Post  superdeuxlol Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:50 pm

Lol and you running around to find your book... which was at the table.
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Post  System Commander Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:02 pm

Tom.. this isnt about "you" or "your tournament" . Its about a list Dallas put up.. and said he was taking to the tournament. I was refraining from commenting till I knew if he was joking or not... but that didnt come so I offered my opinion.

I still think it will be tough to cast that many powers and get the game done. I can offer my opinion if I want.. negative or positive. Why you take that as some bizarre attack on your ability as an organizer is beyond me.

I wanted to know if that's what dallas was bringing because I dont like the " just want to ruffle some feathers" thing. I wanted the joke over before the list discussion got further. Im here to keep the peace and that would cause some problems.

Anything that happens at a tournament does effect the community as a whole.. which has to be my concern.
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