1750 Black Templars - Fluffy

So since I got my codex earlier this week I have been tossing around ideas for a Black Templars list. Right now with the way I'd like to run them I don't see there being an obvious competitive build. Some of that boils down to me not having any newer models since the last time I bought stuff for them was quite a while ago. I am also reluctant to buy stuff for them since I currently consider them to be one of the weaker, if not weakest, in the new codex. Their chapter tactics have no benefit to any of the new cool stuff and is very situational. Hopefully they will get a bitchin' supplement. 

With that being said I did write up a fluffy list that I will be playing with for the next while if I can ever find time to get some games in.

1750 Black Templars - Themed
HQ	Chapter Master	6	5	4	4	4	5	4	10	2+/3++	130
	The Shield Eternal; Thunder Hammer; Artificer Armour										100
HQ	Chapter Master	6	5	4	4	4	5	4	10	2+/3++	130
	Teeth of Terra; Storm Shield; Artificer Amour										70
-	Techmarine	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	2+	50
	Lightning Claw										15
-	Techmarine	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	2+	50
	Lightning Claw										15
Troop	Crusader Squad
	Initiate x9	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	126
	Neophyte x5	3	3	4	4	1	4	1	8	4+	50
	Sword Brother	4	4	4	4	1	4	2	9	3+	24
	Initiate w/ Power Ax; Sword Brother w/ Power Sword										30
D.T.	Land Raider Crusader		4			4				14/14/14	250
	Multi-Melta										10
Troop	Crusader Squad
	Initiate x9	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	126
	Neophyte x10	3	3	4	4	1	4	1	8	4+	100
	Sword Brother	4	4	4	4	1	4	2	9	3+	24
	Initiate w/ Power Ax; Sword Brother w/ Power Sword										30
Troop	Crusader Squad
	Initiate x5	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	70
	Lascannon										20
Troop	Scout Squad	3	3	4	4	1	4	1	8	4+	55
	Sniper Rifles										5
Elite	Ironclad Dreadnought	4	4	6		3	4	2		13/13/10	135
Elite	Ironclad Dreadnought	4	4	6		3	4	2		13/13/10	135
											1750

The biggest thing with this list is scoring bodies. I only have two small units to hold back/mid-field objectives (the scouts are fairly un-fluffy but I could not find anything else I wanted to take for 60 points). The techmarines join up with the walking squad and with careful spacing should help shield them against things like helldrakes/battlecannons. Especially since that chapter master does not have eternal warrior. I am considering switching up his wargear a bit and trading the storm shield for a bike so he can tank str8/9 for the squad. Or something. Again not a really competitive list, but would be fun. Still a bit light on neophytes though. Although it is my b-day next week so perhaps there will be a den shopping spree or something, lol.

Is this what you're bringing to my place on the weekend? I'll post mine in a bit. It's Chaos... and has Thousand Sons and Rhino's. (notice the plural)

Lore Weaver wrote:... and Rhino's.  (notice the plural)

That's possessive, Mark!

I'm debating what I want to bring. It'll be something Black Templary, but probably not this. I still think that T-sons in Rhinos can be good. They are fast, don't care about all the ignores covers stuff that is around now and are scoring. With the right support elements from the rest of the chaos list anyways.

Ahriman 230
Sorcerer: The Last Memory Of Yuranthos; spell familiar; aura of dark glory; Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Veterans of the Long War. 175

5 Thousand Sons 150
• Chaos Rhino 35
5 Thousand Sons 150
• Chaos Rhino: Havoc launcher; warpflame gargoyles; combi-bolter. 57

Heldrake: baleflamer. 170

Forgefiend: ectoplasma cannon. 200
3 Obliterators: Mark of Tzeentch; Veterans of the Long War. 243

Heralds of Chaos 0
• Herald of Tzeentch: Exalted Locus of Conjuration; Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Exalted Reward. 150

10 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch 90

Burning Chariot of Tzeentch: Exalted Flamer. 100

1,750 points

Go go rhino !!

In an attempt to tighten it up a bit Mark I've made a couple of changes. 

FOC	Name/options	WS	BS	S	T	W	I	A	LD	SV	Points
1750 Black Templars - Themed
HQ	Chapter Master (BT - Warlord)	6	5	4	4	4	5	4	10	2+/3++	130
	The Shield Eternal; Thunder Hammer; Artificer Armour										100
HQ	Chapter Master (BT)	6	5	4	4	4	5	4	10	2+/4++	130
	Teeth of Terra; Power Fist; Artificer Amour										80
Troop	Crusader Squad (BT)
	Initiate x9	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	126
	Neophyte x5	3	3	4	4	1	4	1	8	4+	50
	Sword Brother	4	4	4	4	1	4	2	9	3+	24
	Initiate w/ Power Ax; Sword Brother w/ Power Sword										30
D.T.	Land Raider Crusader		4			4				14/14/14	250
	Multi-Melta										10
Troop	Crusader Squad (BT)
	Initiate x9	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	126
	Neophyte x10	3	3	4	4	1	4	1	8	4+	100
	Sword Brother	4	4	4	4	1	4	2	9	3+	24
	Initiate w/ Power Ax; Sword Brother w/ Power Sword										30
HQ (ally)	Librarian (IF)	5	4	4	4	2	4	2	10	2+/5++	65
	Terminator Armour, Combi-plasma, Mastery Level 2										60
Troop (ally)	Tactical Squad x10 (IF)	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	70
	Heavy Bolter, Flamer										85
D.T.	Rhino		4			3				11/11/10	35
H. S. (ally)	Devastator squad (IF)	4	4	4	4	1	4	1	8	3+	70
	Lascannon x2, Missile Launcher x2										70

I still have 85 points to spend and cannot figure it out for the life of me. I've been considering a) scouts with sniper rifles and camo cloaks b) Assault squad(possible vanguard vets) c) Predator with lascannons d) techmarine for the walking crusader squad. For b&c I have to free up a bit of points though (for c the only predator I have is the tri-lascannon one). There isn't a whole lot I want to drop though. The rhino for the tac squad makes them half-way mobile and might shield them from a hellturkey attack for a turn. I'd swap more lascannons to the Devastator squad but only own 2 (doh!). I suppose I could bring an aegis line... blah.

5 marines with a plasma gun is 85 points. They could walk up with the walking squad. I would probably go imperial fist with them for bolter drill.