Re: SM Q&A

Gain Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:48 pm

Tigirius for 165 points sounds awesome. Knowing all the powers with a reroll on top of rerolling reserves is sweet.

Aegwymourn Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:43 pm

Blah. Still not happy with the BT stuff. Oh well. Means I don't have to buy stuff and irritate Cheryl I guess.

Guardian Angel Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:19 pm

Did you guys see that VERY cryptic teaser on GW's site today? I wonder what that one could be about....lol.

Aegwymourn Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:31 pm

Anyone been looking at the LE covers for the chapters? It was super cool that my BT one has to share it's cover with all the other chapter symbols....

Rhaevyn Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:46 pm

not sure why BT gets to share, none of the others do.

That being said, it looks like BT got a lot more attention than most of the other chapters... for good or bad.

Rhaevyn Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:24 am

i'm almost certainly going to make up a counts-as White Scars army (Black Scars? dirty Scars? mwaha)

scoring scouting dangerous terrain test passing, hit and runing, 5str HoWing, crazy badasses on bikes? sign me up.

Planes Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:33 am

I still think the Iron Hand's army wide FNP is pretty awesome, even if it is only 6+, that's still an extra dice roll vs plasma or weaker for most models.

Aegwymourn Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:42 am

Also army wide IWND is beast. I am seriously underwhelmed by the BT rumors. Upside Grimaldus is basically an auto-include (Helsreach has to be my favorite BL novel of all time). Downside is that crusader squads will still be rubbish in Close Combat. That and Helbrect still doesn't have enough special rules to follow his fluff.

Rhaevyn Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:59 pm

I think that there will be tons of mix/match allies shenanigans going on.

If your going to include bikes in your army, why not ally in khan? lets get some imperial fist devastators with tank hunters in there. .etc etc

Planes Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:08 pm

Hell, I'm already eyeing up the current codex for ally modules for my Grey Knights to give them increased Mechanicus representation. If I can snag the Iron Hands stuff for free on top of that, I would totally be down for that.

Rhaevyn Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:38 pm

If the list below is accurate. I R Jealous. Smile

Faeit 212 wrote:
How about a list of the chapter relics/ or what they do?
STANDARD OF THE EMPEROR ASCENDANT -
friendly units within 12'' gain automatically pass morale and pinning tests.
friendly units within 6'' gain the hatred special rule and add 1 to their combat results.
the unit with the banner have the fear special rule.

THE SHIELD ETERNAL - same as 2 power fists
storm shield that confers the bearer, eternal warrior and admantium will.

THE ARMOUR INDOMITUS - 15 points cheaper than 3 power fists
2+ save 6+ invuln, once per game for one turn you can overcharge the Armour to have a 2+ invulnerable.

PRIMARCHS WRATH - 5 points cheaper than a power fist
R 24'' S 4 AP 4 salvo 3/5, shred, mastercrafted.

THE BURNING BLADE - 5 points MORE than 2 power fists
melee, S+3 AP2 blind, incandescant - at the end of each turn roll a d6, on 1 the bearer takes a S4 AP2 hit.

TEETH OF TERRA - 10 points more than a power fist

melee, S+2, AP3, melee, rampage, specialist weapon, strikedown.

Aegwymourn Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:47 pm

That shield is boss. I see a lot of people taking that.

Everything else is meh. Very expensive for what it does.

gluvzer Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:53 am

Aegwymourn wrote:That shield is boss. I see a lot of people taking that.

Everything else is meh. Very expensive for what it does.

The shield is boss. I'm not too sure how the others are "meh". The armour maybe. You should pay a price . It's nice that you can essentially create your own character.

Spamus Eatus Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:33 am

That funky gun is giving me an itchy trigger finger actually! Should be real useful in the hands of a BS5 terminator commander Very Happy

Aegwymourn Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:59 am

Well the one is only ap3, which to me is always meh. You really need to be ap2 for challenges. The other one would be awesome, except you have a 1/6 chance to bonk yourself each turn (which means player turn in this edition). Over the course of a game that is a lot of chances for ap2 hits.

The gun is nifty, but only has ap 4, which is why I think its just meh. I just hate the salvo rules. Half range from moving is stupid. I agree with a terminator commander is the only way to use it.

The other armor imo is pretty bad. Oo one turn of 2+ invul. Or I could just buy this way better shield and get two even better special rules? I suppose you could do something gimmicky with it.

I will say that my BT will be busting out that banner every game though. Hatred is funzies. Smile

gluvzer Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:02 am

That sword is pretty rad. Even with the chance of wounding yourself. It's 1 in 24 chance of a wound on a captain with a iron halo, which I imagine captains and masters still get.

Aegwymourn Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:05 am

maybe i'm just paranoid about roles like that. Razz

giving more thought to the other sword. would function very much like the black mace on a biker character. drives around messing up random troop squads.... might be worth a playtest or two.

Rhaevyn Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:36 am

I'm hopeful for a good book. By all accounts tacticals got cheaper, and if the Hunter can actually deal with heldrakes, you might see a bunch more marines on the table, taking asses and kicking names.

Aegwymourn Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:43 am

Well I am chomping at the bit to get down to making lists. Got the tracking number for my book today, but don't know who they sent it through. Got no hit from Canada Post or USPS. Do you think they would have sent it through ups/purolator?

Rhaevyn Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:11 am

pm me the tracking number and i can tell you how its coming.

Planes Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:15 pm

I hear that the hunter is Str 7, AP 4, Armorbane. That last little bit in there is what makes it decent.

gluvzer Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:55 pm

Rhaevyn wrote:I'm hopeful for a good book. By all accounts tacticals got cheaper, and if the Hunter can actually deal with heldrakes, you might see a bunch more marines on the table, taking asses and kicking names.

Out of something like 250 players at the NOVA open there was apparently 6(?) vanilla marine lists.

Hunter has armour bane and any misses will hit on a 5+ in subsequent turns until the flyer is destroyed or leaves the table. Supposed to be like a heat seeking missile but fluff-wise is actually the mind of a chapter serf. (so I've read)

Guardian Angel Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:04 pm

gluvzer wrote:That sword is pretty rad. Even with the chance of wounding yourself. It's 1 in 24 chance of a wound on a captain with a iron halo, which I imagine captains and masters still get.

I really like the sword too. I am going to try to model the sword on a Salamader biker captain using the flaming sword from the Empire mage kit.

Rhaevyn Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:00 pm

The meta just doesn't lend itself to marines right now, couple small changes could make all the difference. also, i'm of the opinion that marines arn't getting played just because they haven't been the new kid on the block, with xenos army books getting released. everyone wants to play with thier old toys. most long time marine players have a tau, eldar, daemons army in the closet and why not pull them out and take them to the tourney if they got new rules and are competitive. I'm sure the next few tourneys are going to be chock full of power armour.

Planes Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:09 pm

I'm rather blown away by the fact that the book hasn't even hit shelves yet, and decent scans are already floating around out there. The laurels around the page numbers are a nice touch.

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