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Hey i cant remember if this has come up or not, but would a limit on games me a good idea? It always seems like there are people who just dont have the time to be competitive otherwise.

There is a limit of 2 (scoring) games per week for the Tuff league.

when you say that you can report your 2 "best" games... does that mean if you play 3 games, win 2, lose 1... You report winning twice?

Yeah. I see where you may be coming from with your unstated point:

What if someone plays like 50 games and only wins twice. They get to report 2 wins despite the fact that they stink, or something to that effect.

In reality, most people in either league only have enough time for 3-4 games per week, maybe upwards of 5-6. In the end, I don't see reporting your two best results as causing everyone to appear exactly equal. There will be differences, that should follow the expected pattern of 'Who is good, who is mid-ground, and who is not playing so hot'.

Well Im just wondering cuz I plan on playing wednesdays, and getting around 3 games in.

So I'm just wondering if I get to say I win 100% of the points if I get 2/3 games... Or how the "best games" works

Leageus Ive played in the past were just that you took your first and second games of the week., You could keep playing after in league games but got no points for games 3-4-5-6-etc..., your opponent could still record if he was playing his 1st and 2nd games.

So are the ones you are recording apply to the person you played against as well? I can understand that people will likely keep playing until they get 2 wins and then what about all those other guys you played that are going to record the win for there reports. so do the people the reporting player played against gain points for that game as well?

My question is suppose to bring your attention a pottential problem of the logistics and a complication you might not be wanting to deal with.

If there is no points for the guy who lost the game being reported, why not just give everyone X points for playing a game as long as they play 2 games.

Also, if you arent requiring people to report every game then how are you going to verify that said result is true? I hope people wouldnt be dishonest, but worst case scenario: player Y plays 3 games, loses them all but then on saturday, reports that he played player Z and player U and won both games even though player Y never even got out of bed all day.

Just some things to ponder for ya SC.

Well I think a big difference is how much time the Den is open compared to stores I played at in montreal.

One place we could play from noon till 1 am, goign between wargames, cards, and computer games (it had a lan-cafe)

Stores that closed at 10 were considered closing too early

so it was easy to hang around and get like 5-6 games in a week

so can we only report 2 games
also if iam in fluff and esceation is only at 500 could i play a guy in tuff at 1000?

Im not a math guy, but if people are taking their top 2 games, then what happens to their opponents points. This is tough to explain, let me use an example

So there are 3 games played.

Robyn vs Dana = Dana wins
Robyn vs Paz = Robyn wins
Robyn vs Ivan = Robyn wins

So Robyn takes his two wins and is done. [16 points in week 1]

Then the games continue like this
Dana vs Greg = Dana looses
Dana vs Chris = dana wins

Dana plays 3 games total, but keeps his two wins [16 points for the week.]

And the last player
Ivan vs Dana = Ivan wins
Ivan vs Jim = Ivan wins

Ivan has played 3 games and keeps his two wins [16 points in the first week.]

This is a slimmed down example, but what im trying to get at is that the more games a person can play the more likely that they will be able to report 2 wins every week. This also seems unbalanced in my mind, because you are never accountable for losses, because you and your opponent dont have to agree on what games to report.

I dont know if any of this will matter in actual practice, but the idea is making my loophole senses tingle

well essentily everyone will always get 2 wins a week this is a flwed system

This is a slimmed down example, but what im trying to get at is that the more games a person can play the more likely that they will be able to report 2 wins every week. This also seems unbalanced in my mind, because you are never accountable for losses, because you and your opponent dont have to agree on what games to report.

I dont know if any of this will matter in actual practice, but the idea is making my loophole senses tingle

I think the problem is that you are looking for loopholes. With the xcam format both players had to submit a report or Robyn's bloodthirsty demon senses would start tingling. Same idea here both players agree it is a "scored" game and submit reports accordingly.

I think the problem is that you are looking for loopholes. With the xcam format both players had to submit a report or Robyn's bloodthirsty demon senses would start tingling. Same idea here both players agree it is a "scored" game and submit reports accordingly.

But robyn says you get to choose your best game or rather the best games will be compiled. So the one that lost is not actually necessarily being recorded for that person only the winner. so yeah, it seems that everyone could be able to get there max wins every week, unless they don't have time to play many games which then those guys who can hang out and play games several days a week have an advantage for gaining points and potentially getting top spots in the playoffs. this to me seems a bit unfair for those like me who can only make it out to game once a week due to family concerns and such.

i am against this only record certain games thing in all respects i hate it

Viserion wrote:

I think the problem is that you are looking for loopholes.

/sigh
What is your name. Ill try to be at the den tomorrow so we can discuss this face to face, because i have no idea who the =I=censor=I= you are, and your tone really pissed me off just now.

I like your suggestion robyn. Get a +1 point for any game after the limit. I doubt id get in more than a game a week either, and i'm likely not even going to be around for the playoffs anyway since i am going to basic training this summer for 14 weeks starting beginning of may.

robyn I like it, record the first two games and then +1 point for each game after, sounds like a very solid system. (I wouldn't even mind 1 game for full points and then +1 after but that would only make the argument for playing more games more bitter) I'd also be a big fan of record the first 2 games and then your only reward of playing more games is the fun of playing 40k but hey RPG's have ruined us all, if we're gonna game we want phat lootz and experience yo...

There's two leagues, I'm buying into both of them and will be playing in both, AND I'm playing mordheim... honestly there's so many games going on in this town how is this limit thing even coming up? Cap it at two sounds fair to me.

Phew...

So I think you have it nailed down Robyn. First two games, extra point per extra game. Remember everyone, there are two leagues now, so for the fluff, I don't see ppl spamming games.

robyn that is in the top 10 best ideas anyone has ever had