2000 black legion list

Here is the list I am going to use for my chaos marines
hq
abbadon-275
chaos sorcerer-mark of nurgle, warptime, plasma pistol-160

elites
5 terminators- twin linked bolters and power weapons-150
dreadnaught-twin linked lascannon, extra armour-130

troops
10 marines- plasma gun-175
10 marines- plasma gun-175
10 marines- plasma gun-175
10 berserkers-skull champ, power weapon, plsma pistol, x2 plasma pistols-285
4 rhinos with havoc launcher-200

fast attack
none

heavy support
land raider-220
obliterator-75

total
2000

commet

twin linked hooters i like that idea

list seems solid lets see how it works

Twin linked hooters are just like twin linked bolters. Lol

i think you should drop the sorcerer and abbadon for 2 daemon princes, when they work together they are nearly invincible, with the extra points mark up your units and give then a second special weapon, and i would strongly recommend using 2 obliterators.

just my 2 cents

thanks ben. your input ran through my mind when i was making the list i am playing fluffy to and abaddon is a big part of the black legions.

sewerstalker wrote:thanks ben. your input ran through my mind when i was making the list i am playing fluffy to and abaddon is a big part of the black legions.

i see, and your welcome

I agree with Ben on taking more than one obliterator. Otherwise they're just suicide troops that kill 1 or 2 things. Maybe you should take 2. (read 9 )

why take a sorcerer? you could kit out a prince with warptime, and a MoN for 5 points less, then he can't be insta killed. And that could still be considered fluffy( I have Black Legion army too...) But more oblits would be good since they're bad azz

don't knock the non-prince HQs. I think the princes are too cheap to skip over, but the other guys are good in their own right. A sorcerer with warptime and with his handy force weapon can take on many a multi wound model and win. that's why you pay the extra for a sorc instead of a prince: the force weapon. Sorcerer on a bike with warptime and either MoN or MoT is a super character. alternatively take a palanquin of nurgle and he's even more badass.
The biker option is only good if you can hide him in a unit of chaos bikers (which are also really good).

Veyure wrote:don't knock the non-prince HQs.

I'm with this. kharn and abaddon are very scary in close combat.

I'd drop the dreadnought and 2 of the havoc launchers, then I'd add in 2 more obliteraters and give the sorcerer terminator armour.

I'm not knocking special char's, chaos gets some of the best! I'm saying I'D rather have the prince, since he's got more wounds a better toughness, WS, and he's a MC. each has an advantage, thought the prince out weighs the sorcerer, in my opinion.