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Best army list?

Post  Roland on Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:22 pm

really don't care if people know what I'm bringing to tooncon. I'd just like some opinons on which I should take.

Fairly similar. I'd need some practice with the Tactical list, as I mainly run my Libby Terime/SS with a Bookmobile of Doom(tm).
I think the DA lists are more viable and have as much, or more dakka. (The Dread become mortis in DA for anti-flyer, and the LasBacks are replaced by the Cyclone launchers on the DW.) My concern there is 3 scoring units, and we're done.

1500 Pts - Dark Angels Roster - DA Tooncon1

Total Roster Cost: 1500

HQ: Belial, Master of the Deathwing (1#, 130 pts)
1 Belial, Master of the Deathwing, 130 pts

Elite: Mortis Dreadnought (IA) (1#, 125 pts)
1 Mortis Dreadnought (IA), 125 pts = (base cost 105 + Twin Linked Autocannon (x2) 20)

Elite: Mortis Dreadnought (IA) (1#, 125 pts)
1 Mortis Dreadnought (IA), 125 pts = (base cost 105 + Twin Linked Autocannon (x2) 20)

Troops: Upgraded Deathwing Terminator Squad (5#, 290 pts)
4 Upgraded Deathwing Terminator Squad, 247 pts = 4 * 43 (base cost 43) + Cyclone Missile Launcher 20 + Apothecary 30 + Standard Bearer 25
1 Sergeant, 43 pts

Troops: Deathwing Terminator Squad (5#, 245 pts)
4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 202 pts = 4 * 43 (base cost 43) + Assault Cannon 30
1 Sergeant, 43 pts

Troops: Deathwing Terminator Squad (5#, 235 pts)
4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 192 pts = 4 * 43 (base cost 43) + Cyclone Missile Launcher 20
1 Sergeant, 43 pts

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (IA) (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron (IA), 90 pts = (base cost 50) + Typhoon Missile Launcher x1 40

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (IA) (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron (IA), 90 pts = (base cost 50) + Typhoon Missile Launcher x1 40

Heavy Support: Predator Destructor (IA) (1#, 85 pts)
1 Predator Destructor (IA), 85 pts = (base cost 60 + Heavy Bolter (each side) 25)

Heavy Support: Predator Destructor (IA) (1#, 85 pts)
1 Predator Destructor (IA), 85 pts = (base cost 60 + Heavy Bolter (each side) 25)

OR

1500 Pts - Dark Angels Roster - DA Tooncon2

Total Roster Cost: 1500

HQ: Belial, Master of the Deathwing (1#, 130 pts)
1 Belial, Master of the Deathwing, 130 pts

Elite: Mortis Dreadnought (IA) (1#, 125 pts)
1 Mortis Dreadnought (IA), 125 pts = (base cost 105 + Twin Linked Autocannon (x2) 20)

Elite: Mortis Dreadnought (IA) (1#, 125 pts)
1 Mortis Dreadnought (IA), 125 pts = (base cost 105 + Twin Linked Autocannon (x2) 20)

Troops: Upgraded Deathwing Terminator Squad (5#, 280 pts)
4 Upgraded Deathwing Terminator Squad, 237 pts = 4 * 43 (base cost 43) + Chainfist x1 5 + Heavy Flamer 5 + Apothecary 30 + Standard Bearer 25
1 Sergeant, 43 pts

Troops: Deathwing Terminator Squad (5#, 250 pts)
4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 207 pts = 4 * 43 (base cost 43) + Chainfist x1 5 + Assault Cannon 30
1 Sergeant, 43 pts

Troops: Deathwing Terminator Squad (5#, 240 pts)
4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 197 pts = 4 * 43 (base cost 43) + Chainfist x1 5 + Cyclone Missile Launcher 20
1 Sergeant, 43 pts

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (IA) (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron (IA), 90 pts = (base cost 50) + Typhoon Missile Launcher x1 40

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (IA) (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron (IA), 90 pts = (base cost 50) + Typhoon Missile Launcher x1 40

Heavy Support: Predator Destructor (IA) (1#, 85 pts)
1 Predator Destructor (IA), 85 pts = (base cost 60 + Heavy Bolter (each side) 25)

Heavy Support: Predator Destructor (IA) (1#, 85 pts)
1 Predator Destructor (IA), 85 pts = (base cost 60 + Heavy Bolter (each side) 25)

OR

1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster - UM Tooncon

Total Roster Cost: 1500

HQ: Space Marine Librarian in Power Armour (1#, 100 pts)
1 Space Marine Librarian in Power Armour, 100 pts

Elite: Dreadnought (1#, 125 pts)
1 Dreadnought, 125 pts = (base cost 105 + Twin-Linked Autocannon 10 + Twin-Linked Autocannon 10)

Elite: Dreadnought (1#, 125 pts)
1 Dreadnought, 125 pts = (base cost 105 + Twin-Linked Autocannon 10 + Twin-Linked Autocannon 10)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 235 pts)
9 Tactical Squad, 152 pts = 9 * 16 (base cost 16) + Meltagun 5 + Sergeant 51
1 Sergeant, 48 pts = (base cost 23) + Power Fist x1 25
1 Rhino, 35 pts

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 235 pts)
9 Tactical Squad, 152 pts = 9 * 16 (base cost 16) + Meltagun 5 + Sergeant 51
1 Sergeant, 48 pts = (base cost 23) + Power Fist x1 25
1 Rhino, 35 pts

Troops: Tactical Squad (6#, 165 pts)
4 Tactical Squad, 67 pts = 4 * 16 (base cost 16) + Sergeant 26
1 Sergeant, 23 pts
1 Razorback, 75 pts = (base cost 40 + Twin-Linked Lascannon 35)

Troops: Tactical Squad (6#, 165 pts)
4 Tactical Squad, 67 pts = 4 * 16 (base cost 16) + Sergeant 26
1 Sergeant, 23 pts
1 Razorback, 75 pts = (base cost 40 + Twin-Linked Lascannon 35)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron, 90 pts = (base cost 50) + Typhoon Missile Launcher x1 40

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron, 90 pts = (base cost 50) + Typhoon Missile Launcher x1 40

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 85 pts)
1 Predator, 85 pts = (base cost 60 + Heavy Bolter (each side) 25)

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 85 pts)
1 Predator, 85 pts = (base cost 60 + Heavy Bolter (each side) 25)

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Re: Best army list?

Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:01 pm

I like the 1st list.

I like the Mortis Dread and two dakka preds.

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Re: Best army list?

Post  Roland on Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:27 pm

I honestly think it's my pref too. I could trade the AC for another cyclone and 2 CF, not sure if it'd be worth it. The basic termie build I use is

Sgt:TH/SS
LC
Std termie
std termie (or chain fist)
heavy weapon

I'm debating
Sgt: TH/SS
TH/SS
Std
Std
Heavy

I think the internetz say 3 TH/SS (one with cyclone) and 2 std is the "cool" thing. I don't have that many hammers yet.

Second list: Flamer type stuff has seemed handy. I figured the chainfist would help if the termies needed to really crack a AV13/14 vehicle, and they made up points.

third list: attempt to get some more scoring in there. It's based off Kirby's 2000 mech marines. I think he takes 3 of each, the typhoons are MM/HF, and LasBacks are Las/Plas, but I think it still has the feel. I'm leary as I've never had much luck w/ Power armored Libbys, and I'm still somewhat lost on the new Psychic powers (the ol' termie libby w/ SS and Avenger/Null Zone was rather easy to work out).

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Re: Best army list?

Post  Selik on Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:55 am

I like the 3rd list best

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