1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
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1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Okay, so this list is for a possible big thing later next year, or if you people are insane enough to want to play against it.
OATHSWORN DETACHMENT
Knight Gallant 325 (365)
Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Reaper Blade, Stormspear Pod
SKITARII BATTLE MANIPLE
10 Skitarii Vanguard 100 (270)
Alpha: Arc Pistol, Arc Maul, Digital Weapons, Conversion Field, The Pater Radium
3x Plasma Calivers, Omnispex
10Skitarii Rangers 120 (235)
Alpha: Tazer Goad, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons
3x Tranuranic Arquebus
5 Infiltrators 185 (240)
Princeps: Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Elder Nikola's Skull
5 Ruststalkers 160 (210)
Princeps: Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Dataspike, The Omniscent Mask
Dunecrawler 90 (165)
Icarus Array, Cognis Stubber, Mindscanner Probe, Cognis Manipulator
Ironstrider Ballistarii 55 (75)
TL Cognis Lascannon
ADMECH BATTLE CONGREGATION
Tech Priest Dominus 105 (170)
Eradication Ray, Macrostubber, Dataspike, Poweraxe
Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull
The Scryerskull Perspicatus
3x Kataphron Breachers 150 (180)
Heavy Arc Rifles, Hydraulic Claws
3x Kataphron Breachers 150 (180)
Torsion Cannons, Hydraulic Claws
Kastellan Battle Maniple 410 (510)
Datasmith: Gamma Pistol, Powerfist, Dataspike, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull
The Ramient of the Technomartyr
3x Kastellan Robots
TL Heavy Phosphor Blasters, Carapace Heavy Phosphor Blaster
TOTAL COST 1850
ACTUAL COST 2600
COMMAND BENEFITS:
Techpriest may reroll warlord trait
May re use a single canticle of the omnissiah during a game
All Skitarii units have Crusader and Scout
All units in the list contribute towards and may use canticles of the omnissiah
All weapons and wargear options are FREE
No "Gets Hot"
THE PLAN:
Blast everything to tiny radioactive bits and leave the ground a scorched wasteland, basically.
The Knight is meant to charge in a full tilt and get into CC and draw fire from the rest of the army. It was kept cheap to maximize points for other stuff. Since all units benefit from Canticles, I gain some insane bonuses, for instance I can reroll ALL shooting for the entire army. The skitarii can still use their doctrines, so are able to reroll hits on 2+. It's an incredibly efficient killing machine of a list. I'd feel bad using it in normal games but apparently these ITC things are for your A-game, so here we go, have at it!
OATHSWORN DETACHMENT
Knight Gallant 325 (365)
Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Reaper Blade, Stormspear Pod
SKITARII BATTLE MANIPLE
10 Skitarii Vanguard 100 (270)
Alpha: Arc Pistol, Arc Maul, Digital Weapons, Conversion Field, The Pater Radium
3x Plasma Calivers, Omnispex
10Skitarii Rangers 120 (235)
Alpha: Tazer Goad, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons
3x Tranuranic Arquebus
5 Infiltrators 185 (240)
Princeps: Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Elder Nikola's Skull
5 Ruststalkers 160 (210)
Princeps: Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Dataspike, The Omniscent Mask
Dunecrawler 90 (165)
Icarus Array, Cognis Stubber, Mindscanner Probe, Cognis Manipulator
Ironstrider Ballistarii 55 (75)
TL Cognis Lascannon
ADMECH BATTLE CONGREGATION
Tech Priest Dominus 105 (170)
Eradication Ray, Macrostubber, Dataspike, Poweraxe
Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull
The Scryerskull Perspicatus
3x Kataphron Breachers 150 (180)
Heavy Arc Rifles, Hydraulic Claws
3x Kataphron Breachers 150 (180)
Torsion Cannons, Hydraulic Claws
Kastellan Battle Maniple 410 (510)
Datasmith: Gamma Pistol, Powerfist, Dataspike, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull
The Ramient of the Technomartyr
3x Kastellan Robots
TL Heavy Phosphor Blasters, Carapace Heavy Phosphor Blaster
TOTAL COST 1850
ACTUAL COST 2600
COMMAND BENEFITS:
Techpriest may reroll warlord trait
May re use a single canticle of the omnissiah during a game
All Skitarii units have Crusader and Scout
All units in the list contribute towards and may use canticles of the omnissiah
All weapons and wargear options are FREE
No "Gets Hot"
THE PLAN:
Blast everything to tiny radioactive bits and leave the ground a scorched wasteland, basically.
The Knight is meant to charge in a full tilt and get into CC and draw fire from the rest of the army. It was kept cheap to maximize points for other stuff. Since all units benefit from Canticles, I gain some insane bonuses, for instance I can reroll ALL shooting for the entire army. The skitarii can still use their doctrines, so are able to reroll hits on 2+. It's an incredibly efficient killing machine of a list. I'd feel bad using it in normal games but apparently these ITC things are for your A-game, so here we go, have at it!
Spamus Eatus- Inquisitor Lord
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
How in the hell do you compete with that? I don't think I could make a Tau list at 1850 that would even come close. Even if I managed to get a Ta'unar.
GingerBalls- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Oh so here's some more goodies: The Techpriest has a relic that lets me nominate any enemy vehicle on the board, no LOS. All of my units can then reroll armor pen results against that target, or try turn glances into pens.
Flyers? Screw em. Icarus dunecrawler to rip em apart, and if that doesn't work, I can use the Ironstrider with its TL hitting on 5's lascannon, or fire 9TL, 9normal S6 shots from the Killbots, which hit on 5's with the Datasmith's relic. Haywire Breachers can also work in a pinch.
Flyers? Screw em. Icarus dunecrawler to rip em apart, and if that doesn't work, I can use the Ironstrider with its TL hitting on 5's lascannon, or fire 9TL, 9normal S6 shots from the Killbots, which hit on 5's with the Datasmith's relic. Haywire Breachers can also work in a pinch.
Spamus Eatus- Inquisitor Lord
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
You get 750 points free? Damn.
Any your army practically never misses, correct?
How about invisible units? Do you have enough weight of fire to blast them anyway?
Any your army practically never misses, correct?
How about invisible units? Do you have enough weight of fire to blast them anyway?
Decius- Servitor
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
I can hopefully solve the invisibility either by sheer volume of rerollable fire, or cognis weapons. Hitting on 5's is huge for snapfire.
Spamus Eatus- Inquisitor Lord
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Tried making a list to fight this. Did not work. Sure lots of pie plates and low AP and lots of monstrous creatures but no D for that Knight.
GingerBalls- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Hmmm I can do 1750 with a battle co.... Have to see if I can cram the Iron wing detachment in.
Roland- Lord of Titan
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Join date : 2011-01-26
Location : Saskatoon
Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
GingerBalls wrote:Tried making a list to fight this. Did not work. Sure lots of pie plates and low AP and lots of monstrous creatures but no D for that Knight.
None of the StrD seeker missiles? Even then if you have str 7 shooting the knight doesn't like that. Glancing on 6's and only a 4+ invul on one facing.
Aegwymourn- Lord of Titan
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Location : Rosetown
Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Best I can do on short notice. Would still require me to finish 2 inbuilt rhinos and get 2 more Pods.
+++ DA ITC (1848pts) +++
++ Dark Angels: Codex (2015) (DA The Lion's Blade Detachment) ++
+ (No Category) +
Show Forgeworld options
+ Core +
Battle Demi Company
··Assault Squad [4x Assault Space Marine, 2x Flamer, Jump Packs]
····Assault Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
··Company Master
····Power Armour [Bolt Pistol, Infantry, Power Sword]
··Devastator Squad [4x Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marine]
····Rhino [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Dreadnought Squadron
····Dreadnought [Multi-Melta]
······Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
······Power Fist [Heavy Flamer]
··Tactical Squad [Flamer, Multi-Melta, 9x Tactical Marine]
····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Flamer, Multi-Melta, 9x Tactical Marine]
····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Flamer, Multi-Melta, 9x Tactical Marine]
····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
Battle Demi Company
··Assault Squad [4x Assault Space Marine, 2x Flamer]
····Assault Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
··Chaplain [Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Infantry]
··Devastator Squad [4x Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marine]
····Rhino [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Dreadnought Squadron
····Dreadnought [Multi-Melta]
······Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
······Power Fist [Heavy Flamer]
··Tactical Squad [Meltagun, 4x Tactical Marine]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Meltagun, 4x Tactical Marine]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Meltagun, 4x Tactical Marine]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
+ Command +
The Inner Circle [Ezekiel]
+ Auxillary +
10th Company Support
··Scout Squad [3x Boltguns, Heavy Bolter with Hellfire Shells, 4x Scouts]
····Scout Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
+++ DA ITC (1848pts) +++
++ Dark Angels: Codex (2015) (DA The Lion's Blade Detachment) ++
+ (No Category) +
Show Forgeworld options
+ Core +
Battle Demi Company
··Assault Squad [4x Assault Space Marine, 2x Flamer, Jump Packs]
····Assault Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
··Company Master
····Power Armour [Bolt Pistol, Infantry, Power Sword]
··Devastator Squad [4x Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marine]
····Rhino [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Dreadnought Squadron
····Dreadnought [Multi-Melta]
······Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
······Power Fist [Heavy Flamer]
··Tactical Squad [Flamer, Multi-Melta, 9x Tactical Marine]
····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Flamer, Multi-Melta, 9x Tactical Marine]
····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Flamer, Multi-Melta, 9x Tactical Marine]
····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
Battle Demi Company
··Assault Squad [4x Assault Space Marine, 2x Flamer]
····Assault Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
··Chaplain [Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Infantry]
··Devastator Squad [4x Missile Launcher, 4x Space Marine]
····Rhino [Storm Bolter]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Dreadnought Squadron
····Dreadnought [Multi-Melta]
······Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
······Power Fist [Heavy Flamer]
··Tactical Squad [Meltagun, 4x Tactical Marine]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Meltagun, 4x Tactical Marine]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
··Tactical Squad [Meltagun, 4x Tactical Marine]
····Razorback [Lascannon and Twin Linked Plasmagun]
····Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
+ Command +
The Inner Circle [Ezekiel]
+ Auxillary +
10th Company Support
··Scout Squad [3x Boltguns, Heavy Bolter with Hellfire Shells, 4x Scouts]
····Scout Sergeant [Boltgun, Chainsword]
Roland- Lord of Titan
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Join date : 2011-01-26
Location : Saskatoon
Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Best i can think of today.
Fast, hard hitting threats to overwhelm torrent of fire. Hopefully the deathtoll cranks up the Blood Pool and by the end of the game there are just some summoned bloodletters sitting on objectives.
+++ New Roster (1850pts) +++
++ Codex: Khorne Daemonkin (Combined Arms Detachment) (1085pts) ++
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (275pts)
Daemon Prince (210pts) [Close Combat Weapon, The Blood-forged Armour]
Bloodletters (85pts) [8x Bloodletters, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper]
Bloodletters (85pts) [8x Bloodletters, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper]
Heldrake (170pts) [Baleflamer]
Maulerfiend (130pts) [2x Magma Cutters]
Maulerfiend (130pts) [2x Magma Cutters]
++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Allied Detachment) (413pts) ++
Be'lakor, The Dark Master (350pts)
+ Troops (63pts) +
Chaos Cultists (63pts) [Cultist Champion, 11x Cultists, Flamer]
++ Codex: Khorne Daemonkin (Formation Detachment) (352pts) ++
Gorepack (352pts)
··Chaos Bikers [2x Bikers, 2x Meltagun]
····Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon]
··Chaos Bikers [2x Bikers, 2x Meltagun]
····Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon]
··Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]
··Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]
Fast, hard hitting threats to overwhelm torrent of fire. Hopefully the deathtoll cranks up the Blood Pool and by the end of the game there are just some summoned bloodletters sitting on objectives.
+++ New Roster (1850pts) +++
++ Codex: Khorne Daemonkin (Combined Arms Detachment) (1085pts) ++
Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (275pts)
Daemon Prince (210pts) [Close Combat Weapon, The Blood-forged Armour]
Bloodletters (85pts) [8x Bloodletters, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper]
Bloodletters (85pts) [8x Bloodletters, Upgrade one Bloodletter to Bloodreaper]
Heldrake (170pts) [Baleflamer]
Maulerfiend (130pts) [2x Magma Cutters]
Maulerfiend (130pts) [2x Magma Cutters]
++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Allied Detachment) (413pts) ++
Be'lakor, The Dark Master (350pts)
+ Troops (63pts) +
Chaos Cultists (63pts) [Cultist Champion, 11x Cultists, Flamer]
++ Codex: Khorne Daemonkin (Formation Detachment) (352pts) ++
Gorepack (352pts)
··Chaos Bikers [2x Bikers, 2x Meltagun]
····Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon]
··Chaos Bikers [2x Bikers, 2x Meltagun]
····Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon]
··Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]
··Flesh Hounds [5x Flesh Hounds]
Rhaevyn- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Spamus Eatus wrote:I can hopefully solve the invisibility either by sheer volume of rerollable fire, or cognis weapons. Hitting on 5's is huge for snapfire.
Cognis doesn't give u a benefit to snapfire, only overwatch.
Paz- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
P 72 Skitarii Codex:
Cognis: When a model makes snapshots (including overwatch) with a weapon that has the Cognis rule, its BS is counted as 2 instead of 1
Cognis: When a model makes snapshots (including overwatch) with a weapon that has the Cognis rule, its BS is counted as 2 instead of 1
Spamus Eatus- Inquisitor Lord
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Spamus Eatus wrote:P 72 Skitarii Codex:
Cognis: When a model makes snapshots (including overwatch) with a weapon that has the Cognis rule, its BS is counted as 2 instead of 1
Well damn, totally read that wrong :p
Paz- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
That's the same for new DA right? (snapshot on bs2)
Aegwymourn- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
Aegwymourn wrote:GingerBalls wrote:Tried making a list to fight this. Did not work. Sure lots of pie plates and low AP and lots of monstrous creatures but no D for that Knight.
None of the StrD seeker missiles? Even then if you have str 7 shooting the knight doesn't like that. Glancing on 6's and only a 4+ invul on one facing.
Didn't think of using a stormsurge. Probably because I don't own one. :S
EDIT: I stuffed a R'varna in instead (because I have one of those. )
GingerBalls- Lord of Titan
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Join date : 2010-12-06
Re: 1850 ITC War Convocation (AKA Entering the Proving Grounds)
How about this?:
+++ ITC (1850pts) +++
++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1500pts) ++
+ HQ (142pts) +
Commander (142pts) [2x MV7 Marker Drone]
····XV8 Commander Crisis Suit [Drone Controller, Shield Generator]
+ Elites (200pts) +
XV104 Riptide Battlesuits (200pts)
····Riptide Shas'vre [Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle, Velocity Tracker]
+ Troops (484pts) +
Kroot Carnivores (84pts) [12x Kroot, Sniper Rounds]
Strike Team (200pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
····TY7 Devilfish [Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
Strike Team (200pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
····TY7 Devilfish [Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
+ Fast Attack (314pts) +
Drones (84pts) [6x MV7 Marker Drone]
XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit [FW] (230pts)
+ Lord of War (360pts) +
KV128 Stormsurges (360pts)
····KV128 Stormsurge [Pulse Blastcannon, Twin-linked Flamer]
++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (350pts) ++
+ Formation (350pts) +
Optimized Stealth Cadre (350pts)
····XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon, Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon]
········Stealth Shas'vre [Fusion Blaster]
····XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon, Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon]
········Stealth Shas'vre [Fusion Blaster]
····XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuits
········Ghostkeel Shas'vre [Cyclic Ion Raker, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster]
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+++ ITC (1850pts) +++
++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1500pts) ++
+ HQ (142pts) +
Commander (142pts) [2x MV7 Marker Drone]
····XV8 Commander Crisis Suit [Drone Controller, Shield Generator]
+ Elites (200pts) +
XV104 Riptide Battlesuits (200pts)
····Riptide Shas'vre [Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle, Velocity Tracker]
+ Troops (484pts) +
Kroot Carnivores (84pts) [12x Kroot, Sniper Rounds]
Strike Team (200pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
····TY7 Devilfish [Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
Strike Team (200pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
····TY7 Devilfish [Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
+ Fast Attack (314pts) +
Drones (84pts) [6x MV7 Marker Drone]
XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit [FW] (230pts)
+ Lord of War (360pts) +
KV128 Stormsurges (360pts)
····KV128 Stormsurge [Pulse Blastcannon, Twin-linked Flamer]
++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (350pts) ++
+ Formation (350pts) +
Optimized Stealth Cadre (350pts)
····XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon, Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon]
········Stealth Shas'vre [Fusion Blaster]
····XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon, Stealth Shas'ui with Burst Cannon]
········Stealth Shas'vre [Fusion Blaster]
····XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuits
········Ghostkeel Shas'vre [Cyclic Ion Raker, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster]
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