Re: Are flyers that good?

Lord_Commander_Stash Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:17 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:A unit of 3 broadsides basically has a 50% chance to destroy a flyer. (Unless dude makes his evade save, even then, he's snap-firing next turn)

I thought those crazy necron fliers want to snap fire?

Lore Weaver Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:18 pm

Lord_Commander_Stash wrote:
Lore Weaver wrote:A unit of 3 broadsides basically has a 50% chance to destroy a flyer. (Unless dude makes his evade save, even then, he's snap-firing next turn)

I thought those crazy necron fliers want to snap wire?

Can't snapfire the deathray. You can snapfire the Tesla Destructor, but no-one's going to whine about 3-6 S7 AP- hits. (well... they shouldn't)

Lord_Commander_Stash Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:52 pm

Well after watching that vid, it looks like the game has come full circle from second edition.

Lord_Commander_Stash Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:53 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:
Lord_Commander_Stash wrote:
Lore Weaver wrote:A unit of 3 broadsides basically has a 50% chance to destroy a flyer. (Unless dude makes his evade save, even then, he's snap-firing next turn)

I thought those crazy necron fliers want to snap wire?

Can't snapfire the deathray. You can snapfire the Tesla Destructor, but no-one's going to whine about 3-6 S7 AP- hits. (well... they shouldn't)

I thought you made a whole post about snap firing the tesla does more hits.

Lore Weaver Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:55 pm

Lord_Commander_Stash wrote:
Lore Weaver wrote:
Lord_Commander_Stash wrote:
Lore Weaver wrote:A unit of 3 broadsides basically has a 50% chance to destroy a flyer. (Unless dude makes his evade save, even then, he's snap-firing next turn)

I thought those crazy necron fliers want to snap wire?

Can't snapfire the deathray. You can snapfire the Tesla Destructor, but no-one's going to whine about 3-6 S7 AP- hits. (well... they shouldn't)

I thought you made a whole post about snap firing the tesla does more hits.

Nah, Snapfiring the Tesla does *less* hits. Optimal BS for Twin-Linked Tesla is 2, surprisingly. 1 is worse than 3 and 4.

Aegwymourn Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:57 pm

stupid necrons having to high of bs. quick give those tesla guns to those orks! Razz

Lore Weaver Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:58 pm

Aegwymourn wrote:stupid necrons having to high of bs. quick give those tesla guns to those orks!

Bring back the 3rd Edition Looted Vehicle rules.

Aegwymourn Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:01 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:
Aegwymourn wrote:stupid necrons having to high of bs. quick give those tesla guns to those orks!

Bring back the 3rd Edition Looted Vehicle rules.

lol i remember that. all those looted leman russes. and not a single magnet. idiots. Razz

Guest Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:02 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:
Aegwymourn wrote:stupid necrons having to high of bs. quick give those tesla guns to those orks!

Bring back the 3rd Edition Looted Vehicle rules.

I want a Looted Annihilation Barge with a Red Paint Job!!!

Lord_Commander_Stash Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:23 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:
Aegwymourn wrote:stupid necrons having to high of bs. quick give those tesla guns to those orks!

Bring back the 3rd Edition Looted Vehicle rules.

Lol yeah the necron transports fit ork doctrine more than that of the necrons. Necrons just teliported in and out of battle, but apparently are in need of a transport let alone of a flier anyway........cant sell models using teliporters I guess

Lord_Commander_Stash Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:49 pm

Ironically it looks like busting out the old VDR (vehicle design rules) will bring balance to the for...err game

Rhaevyn Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:12 pm

Lord_Commander_Stash wrote:Ironically it looks like busting out the old VDR (vehicle design rules) will bring balance to the for...err game

dude!

I was just cleaning out my old stuff and threw that White Dwarf with the VDR in the garbage last night. how creepy is that?

(speaking of which... wtb dogs of war for 40k)

Aegwymourn Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:19 pm

Rhaevyn wrote:

dude!

I was just cleaning out my old stuff and threw that White Dwarf with the VDR in the garbage last night. how creepy is that?

(speaking of which... wtb dogs of war for 40k)

I was hoping they were going to do Dogs of War for 40k back when they added kroot. There was a white dwarf when Tau first came out for Kroot Mercenaries for other armies. Everyone was hoping they would expand on it, but it never went anywhere.

gluvzer Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:21 pm

I read somewhere that there are plans on doing an allies supplement. Something like dogs of war, but not full army lists just only available as allies stuff.

System Commander Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:23 pm

I played against that kroot merc list a couple times.. It was bizarre.

... And not that good except you could infiltrate your whole army which was a rare thing back then unless you played alpha legion.

Aegwymourn Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:27 pm

I cant imagine what that must have looked like back then. Although I've never been a fan of kroot either so perhaps that colors my thoughts a little bit. Way to wishy-washy of a unit for me.

Paz Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:52 pm

Anyone remember the 3rd Ed. Tyranid "create a monster" codex entry? Ah memories

Termagant Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:21 pm

Yeah, what ticked me off is some tourneys (local stuff) put in the rules that vehicle design rules were good to go but Tyranids (the only army with no vehicles) could not make their own monsters.

Paz wrote:Anyone remember the 3rd Ed. Tyranid "create a monster" codex entry? Ah memories

Paz Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:09 pm

I remember playing (badly) 3rd Ed. With my buddies in highschool. Made a huge tyranid super chicken. Clucked the shizzle out of some very "fowl" imp. Guard.

Boy did they have egg on their faces. Madder than a hen house!

Alright, out of chicken puns, my job is done here

Lore Weaver Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:29 pm

Paz wrote:

Alright, out of chicken puns, my job is done here

You really cocked up that nugget.

Deadlytoaster Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:19 pm

not sure what part of a chicken the "nuggets" come from but im gunna go and guess its right beside the "fingers"

And actually now that we mention it i want a kroot chicken flying monstrous creature

Aegwymourn Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:21 pm

Deadlytoaster wrote:not sure what part of a chicken the "nuggets" come from but im gunna go and guess its right beside the "fingers"

And actually now that we mention it i want a kroot chicken flying monstrous creature

id settle for the current ones from forge world being good! Razz

(monstrous creatures, not FMC)

Deadlytoaster Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:23 pm

true i want a big kroot beasty that can carry 20 kroot and is open topped

Aegwymourn Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:29 pm

Well i just wish they would either make Kroot shooty and give them shooty options or melee and give them melee options. I find them way to middle of the road to actually be worth it. espcially since they dont even start with 6+ armor saves.

Lord_Commander_Stash Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:35 pm

Well everyone (except tyranids) have the option to take a vendetta squadron and hydra squadron, and an officer of the fleet as allies to counter flyers with the 6th ed rules.
I guess Imperial guard are the Dogs of war for 40k now that the laws of physics have changed in the 40k universe.

IG are ironically only desperate allies with Dark Eldar and necrons...the two armies that dont really need help against fliers

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