1750 New 'crons What'cha gonna kill? Nothing, that's what.

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1750 New 'crons What'cha gonna kill? Nothing, that's what.

Post  Lore Weaver on Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:13 pm

So ya, that blob squad, 4+/5++/4+++ re-roll 1's

the three "squishy" squads might start in reserve.

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- Reclaimation Legion -
Trayzn the Infinite - 130 ** Warlord **

5xLychguard, Sword & Board - 150
Dedicated Nightscythe - 130

10xImmortals with Tesla - 170
20xWarriors - 260
10xWarriors - 130

3xTomb Blades with Particle Jiggers - 60

Reclaimation Total = 1030

- Royal Court -

Overlord 80
- Warscythe 20, Nightmare Shroud 35, Gauntlet of the Conflagrator 30
- Phylactery 15, Phase Shifter 25
- Sub Total = 205

Cryptek 65
Cryptek with Chronometron 90
Lord with Warscythe 70

Royal Court Total = 430

- Canoptek Harvest -

Canoptek Spyder 50
3xWraiths 120
6xScarabs 120

Canoptek Harvest Total = 290

Army Total = 1750

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:51 pm

-1 scarab base, swap Trazyn for Zandrekh, because Reecius was right.

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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:43 pm

Is this going to a serious tournament list Mark?

I don't see anything to crazy scary. I mean the warriors are tough sure, but still just 20 dudes with bolters that can glance/wound vehicles/mc. And if you manage to beat them in a round a combat you can get them to run off? Unless you have Zandrek in the unit as well. But still not tons of offense.

I suppose we'll have to play at some point and seeeeeeee! Razz

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:47 pm

The Overlord, Lychguard unit with the S7 AP2 flamer in a Scythe.

Wriaths

Spyder...

And 20 unkillable warriors that get special rules from Zandy (4+/5++/4+++)

That Lychguard unit is scary T5 3+/3++/4+++

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Post  Planes on Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:43 pm

The big thing with this list is it's incredible powers of attrition. It doesn't do anything terribly flashy, it just fails to succumb to your opponent's flash. You creep the core of the army up onto the valuable objectives, and then sit there like a rock. With RP now being akin to a save rather than a sub-phase action that Warrior blob is much more resilient to getting swept, getting to roll when they otherwise wouldn't. That one turn is likely all the time you need to have an answer show up and deal with the "peas in your porridge".

Personally I'd try to find a way to shoe-horn in an Ghost Ark just to crank things up to 11 in the anti-death machine, both by sheltering the 10 man squad and regenerating the 20 man squad. Dropping 3 Scarabs and 3 Immortals would give you enough points for both a Ghost Ark and a gun on the Spyder, also netting you more shooting through-put at the same time. The wonderful thing with the Scarabs is they don't need to be a big points investment so long as you have a Spyder to feed them. I've learned that lesson after playing Charnel Scarabs extensively with Dark Harvest, keep the Scarab squads cheap.

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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:24 pm

I think it is interesting, but could it withstand some of the more offensive based lists out there now?

Still think we should get some games in to test! Smile

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Post  Spamus Eatus on Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:29 pm

Looks like we will find out how this list rolls on friday!

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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:42 pm

What are you using to counter Ben? Obviously you guys need to do a bat-rep! Cool

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Post  Spamus Eatus on Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:50 pm

Tyranids. Lots of them.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:25 pm

Boooo.... only one artifact per dude. Either I gotta move the gauntlet to another character or drop the Nightmare Shroud and add a wriath. ... .. something

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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:20 pm

Ooooh interesting matchup. Two different kinds of attrition armies duking it out!.

Should be interesting to see how 'Crons handle MC without mindshackle scarabs. Getting challenged out could be bad news. Although they are still stupid tough to put down in the first place.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:26 pm

Sitting at 1850 now...  Not sure where to nix 100 pts.

(Edit: Dropping 3 warriors and the flayed ones drops down to 1720, bring back a scarab base to 1740, then 10 mystery points left -- enough for a Gloom Prism for some psychic protection)

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- Reclaimation Legion -
Nemesor Zandrekh - 150 ** Warlord **

5xLychguard, Sword & Board - 150
Dedicated Nightscythe - 130

10xImmortals with Tesla - 170
20xWarriors - 260
10xWarriors - 130

3xTomb Blades with Particle Jiggers - 60

Reclaimation Total = 1050

- Royal Court -

Overlord 80
- Warscythe 20, Gauntlet of the Conflagrator 30
- Phylactery 15, Phase Shifter 25
- Sub Total = 170

Cryptek with Chronometron 90
Lord with Warscythe 70

Royal Court Total = 330

- Canoptek Harvest -

Canoptek Spyder 50
6xWraiths 3-whip coils 249
4xScarabs 80

Canoptek Harvest Total = 399

- Flayed Ones -

7xFlayed Ones = 91

Army Total = 1850


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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:28 pm

What does the extra lord with warscyth really provide? I'd cut that and a scarf base

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Post  Roland on Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:31 pm

Doesn't royal court require 1 overlord, 1 cryptek, 1 Lord?

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:07 pm

Roland wrote:Doesn't royal court require 1 overlord, 1 cryptek, 1 Lord?

Yep.  The other option is to scrap the Royal Court all together, but the Cryptek is just tooo good.  

The Scythe Lord goes in the blob squad, so he can kill a dude or two per round and get me some combat resolution points.    Zandy's pretty decent at not dying ever in a challenge (+ I could change his warlord trait to some fearless thing, although he starts with Zealot...)  2+/4++/4+++

Edit: If I had the models, I could scrap the Royal Court and take a stalker and two units of Praetorians.

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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:09 pm

Then I'd drop either the scarabs, the flayed ones or the group of ten warriors. Those are the three pieces that look the least important.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:11 pm

Aegwymourn wrote:Then I'd drop either the scarabs, the flayed ones or the group of ten warriors. Those are the three pieces that look the least important.

Flayed Ones aren't required, but the warriors and the scarabs are, for the formations to work.

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Post  Aegwymourn on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:13 pm

Then I'd drop them. They are good now but not amazing

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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:20 pm

Aegwymourn wrote:Then I'd drop them. They are good now but not amazing

Agreed. I'm excited to play them. Alternatively, I could drop Zandy's unit to 10 warriors and take 10 Flayed Ones.

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