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A good article on Cover saves and focus fire on 3++

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Post  Lore Weaver Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:09 am

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Post  Rhaevyn Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:30 am

oh man.

Killer Tip 3: You can create cover saves for your enemy's models. Just as experienced players block their own unit's line of sight using vehicles in order to prevent shots going into undesirable targets, you can also use your own intervening models from other squads to give cover saves to some models in enemy units – for example, using Grey Hunters to give a Tau Iridium Commander a 5+ save from your Long Fangs means with focus fire all the missiles will go in to the Crisis Suits behind him.
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Post  Aegwymourn Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:06 pm

@ Mark, make sure that you read Abusepuppy's comments, 2+ cover is possible in ruins, just a little harder. I think the way most people have been playing it is correct?

@ Mike's quote - nasty stuff. Kinda glad I still don't run my shield'o anymore.
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Post  Guest Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:41 pm

Interesting article,

I dont like the one about intentionally screening opponent tanky models. I turbo boost my windriders in front of iridium commander, proceed to shoot reapers with S8 focus fire onto bodyguards.... Without checking the rules, I think he is correct in the matter.

As for the ruins 2+ thing, I think I would agree to that. What do people think about agreeing to that classification? Either you are taking a 4+ with a +1, or a 5+ with a +2

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Post  Roland Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:27 pm

It's one of those things.Im guilty of never using it, and I prob should.
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Post  Planes Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:42 pm

I went to use the trick once, but earlier shooting in the round made the attempt moot.
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Post  Rhaevyn Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:09 pm

don't think its up for debate after reading the actual rules

"Area Ruins" is something us players made up.

that being said... every time we look at stuff like this, games get longer. doing everything on a per model basis really bogs down a game.
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Post  Roland Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:23 pm

Bottom floor of ruins is area terrain and ruins, provided it hasa base.
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Post  Aegwymourn Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:00 pm

Roland wrote:Bottom floor of ruins is area terrain and ruins, provided it hasa base.

Exactly. This is what Abusepuppy pointed out in his comments.

As for the whole sniping characters/squad members out with different cover saves it sounds a lot easier than it actually is. Still something to be aware of I guess.
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Post  Gulsnick Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:58 pm

Aegwymourn wrote:
Roland wrote:Bottom floor of ruins is area terrain and ruins, provided it hasa base.

Exactly. This is what Abusepuppy pointed out in his comments.

As for the whole sniping characters/squad members out with different cover saves it sounds a lot easier than it actually is. Still something to be aware of I guess.

Usaly I would never use something like that ..... but if someone is going to park that comander in front of the sqwad to soak wounds , I am foinf ro use just as nasty a trick to get around it .
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