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Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:11 am

so this is a list i'll be able to field shortly.

Not sure i will, outside of tourneys, and i'm not sure its even that good.... but i'm sure against some armies, it will be absolutely frustrating.

Strategy:
So.... cultists reserve or hide in bottom level of the Bastion. 2-3 units of obliterators man the Bastion... only models on the table. kharne and the CSM ride in the storm eagle.
they weather the storm on turn one and hope the enemy doesnt have too many lascannons to shake the Tower.

Air force comes in turn 2 and makes life bad. turn 3 kharne hits the table running and wrecks something, vendetta wrecks something else and drops vets on an objective.

cultists, kharne and his cronies, and the vets need to hang on to some objectives by the end of the game. should probably get first blood and linebreaker with this army.

1750 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster

Total Roster Cost: 1750

: Imperial Bastion (1#, 95 pts)
. . 1 Imperial Bastion, 95 pts = (base cost 75 + Comms Relay 20)

3X - Heavy Support: Obliterator (2#, 140 pts)
. . 2 Obliterator, 140 pts = 2 * 70

2X Fast Attack: Heldrake (1#, 170 pts)
. . 1 Heldrake, 170 pts

1X: Fast Attack: Chaos Storm Eagle Assault Gunship (IA) (1#, 205 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Storm Eagle Assault Gunship (IA), 205 pts

1X HQ: Kharn the Betrayer (1#, 160 pts)
. . 1 Kharn the Betrayer, 160 pts

1X Troops: Chaos Space Marines (10#, 160 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Space Marines, 137 pts = 9 * 13 (base cost 13) + Meltagun 10 + Meltagun 10
. . . . 1 Aspiring Champion, 23 pts

1X HQ: Primaris Psyker (1#, 70 pts)
. . 1 Primaris Psyker (HQ) [Guard], 70 pts

1X Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship Squadron (1#, 130 pts)
. . 1 Vendetta Gunship Squadron (Fast) [Guard], 0 pts
. . . . 1 Vendetta [Guard], 130 pts

1X Troops: Veteran Squad (10#, 115 pts)
. . 9 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Guard], 108 pts = 9 * 7 (base cost 7) + Plasma gun x3 45
. . . . 1 Veteran Sergeant [Guard], 7 pts

Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 55 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 41 pts = 9 * 4 (base cost 4) + Flamer x1 5
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Roland on Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:47 am

Shocked

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:02 am

btw. none of those models are for sale!

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  judchic on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:45 am

Only 2 scoring units in 1750?

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:47 am

Theres three, cultists, marines and vets.

Its a scary list.. Thats for sure. 4 flyers make me squirm.

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:04 am

Three scoring units. CSM /w kharne. Vets in the Vendetta, and a unit of Cultists in reserve to come on and snag a backfield objective. This is CSM, we dont have force org swaps to make cool stuff scoring.

I could probably drop a unit of oblits and add another scoring option.
maybe another unit of CSM in a rhino in reserve. or a Sorcerer and another unit of cultists in the Bastion. could always field an IG blob as well.

Keeping non-flying units or units in flyers to a minimum is central to the list. whatever is forced to be on the table by the 50% rule needs to either be hiding in the bastion or very very durable.


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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:11 am

What does the storm eagle sport for.guns?

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  dusktiger on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:24 am

Fast Attack: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship (225 pts loyalist, 205 chaos)
Vehicle (Flyer w/Hover mode, Transport);
Ceramite Plating;
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter;
Vengeance Launcher;
Assault Vehicle;
Deep Strike;
Power of the Machine Spirit; (loyalist only)
Skyfire

you can add either 4 hellstrike missiles or 2 tl lascannons to the wings,
heavy bolters can be turned into multi melta or typhoon if your loyalist, multi melta or reaper autocannon for chaos.
chaos can make it possessed for 20pts

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:30 am

Veangence Launcher 48" Str 5 ap4 Heavy 2 Large Blast
Reaper Autocannon. (may be upgraded to multimelta for 15 points) But we dont have Machine spirit, so no idea why you would do this.

.pdf below is identical to the entry in Aeronautica. I wish all chaos vehicles were written like this. imagine how much better every single one would be if Daemonic Posession was discounted and listed as an "option". think about the daemon engines.. or the Drake Smile 20 points less, BS4... (WS4 on the maulerfiend)

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/s/Stormeagle.pdf

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  miv305 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:33 am

"This is CSM, we dont have force org swaps to make cool stuff scoring".

Yeah, not like Kharn or any other marked lord makes the corresponding cult troop scoring...why stick to the facts when you can complain and be a 40k martyr!!!

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:07 pm

If only Kharne made fast attack choices scoring... or anything that was good scoring. or even anything that complimented the list at hand scoring... oh wait.

My 9 year old calls me out every time i say something not 100% correct too. do you want a cookie to shut up as well?

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:08 pm

Im with Bidyk on this one. Scoring berserkers are pretty useless. They are fun assaulting if you have kharne..but are crappy objective.holders.

Give me raptors, terms or bikes that could score and id be a happy camper.


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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:12 pm

Ive only used possesion once on the drake.. Out of say 20 games? The daemon save and engine though has been useful every single game.

Likewise, it will not die has done nothing for me at all. It either crashes and burns when it gets hit or saves. Its sure tough though..

Id be tempted to field a naked defiler if the options were there.. Perhaps with just the daemon save.

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:18 pm

siege fiend would be tons better. hades cannons @ BS4? yes plz.

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  miv305 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:26 pm

@Mike B
Don't tell me to shutup because I called you out for making a cry-baby statement when the facts don't back you up...

Back on topic:

I agree that scoring Beserkers may not be the best but scoring Plague Marines and Noise Marines are pretty darn good, and both are options that lie within the book. I also agree that they dropped the ball on no Night Lords guy who makes Raptors scoring, it would have been something easily implemented and cool to boot.

To be honest I think the flexiblity of being able to make your own Chaos Lord and pick what unit he makes scoring is pretty sweet, it's a better system than forcing someone to always use Belial if they want DW Terminators as troops.

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Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:39 pm

I agree.. Having a lord you can build like the bike commander to makes scoring is awesome. Or the warboss for nobs.. Great.

Special characters unlocking builds is goofy. At least belial and sammael are better now.. But being tied to that particular giy has lways sort of bugged me.

At least you can build your own lord with chaos.

Ive been playing with a khorne and nurgle lord.. And one unit of beraerkers and plague marines. The khorne lord is awesome.. The berserkers suck. The nurgle lord usually isnt to hot.. But the plague marines rock. Its a win/lose sort of thing. However, the nurgle lord never sucks as much as the berserkers. The init loss on furious charge really took the boom of their charge. Hatred helps when itworks.. But i always lose some in the combat and shooting quickly finishes off. If i hidein the raiderall gme.. They do great!

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:14 pm

I'm not telling you anything, I'm asking you if you want a cookie.


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Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:44 pm

Umm.. Id like that cookie.. seriously.. Can i have a cookie.

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:04 pm

Cookies are for trolls robyn!




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Post  System Commander on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:19 pm

Damn thats frightening...

.. And tasty.

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Dana on Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:05 pm

How long have you been sitting on that cookie picture before you got to use it?

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Re: Chaos Air -Complete with Air traffic control tower

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:22 pm

There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.


... and a time to use sweet ass Troll cookie pictures.

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