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works for me.

Exactly as i had thought and how i was making my arguments. If both players are trying to kick a lot of as s, it will be fun, not intimidating.

Awesome Thank for straighting things out. So For the Tuff league it would be totally cool If I brought two land raiders ( one a crusader) and another Terminus Ultra Landraider and some crazy terminator for a 2 thousand point game. Always wondered how that would go.

Commander James of the Ul wrote: Terminus Ultra Landraider

Can we avoid Apocalypse and IA units for the Tuff league? I'd prefer games that are more of a competitive edge, not filled with total bullshit.

All IA stuff is opponents permission Alex. So if you have a problem with your opponent using one, say no when he asks you.

Dont want to start an argument here at all, and im sorry i always harp on this, but the highest level of competitive play would be the major north american tournament circuit and the GW grand tournament. To the best of my knowledge IA units are allowed in all cases without your opponents permission. Just some food for thought, and i know that people consider competition on different levels. My fondest desire though is that at some point we can get a road crew together again and resume kicking ass across western Canada.

Apparently the UK GT has no composition, sportsmanship etc. the only thing judged is your battle points earned from winning battles. Now that touney (if anyone bothered to read the BoLS article i recommended) had the lash oblit lists in the top and a few other suprising entries. that would be a tough tournament.

Oh yes... yes! Give me my imperial armor units! Dreadnaught drop pods... goood.... good. *Twitch.*

Sorry, I've got a thing for those, but no one ever lets me use them. ^_^

Sounds pretty right to me Robyn!

LexMechanic wrote:Dont want to start an argument here at all, and im sorry i always harp on this, but the highest level of competitive play would be the major north american tournament circuit and the GW grand tournament. To the best of my knowledge IA units are allowed in all cases without your opponents permission. Just some food for thought, and i know that people consider competition on different levels. My fondest desire though is that at some point we can get a road crew together again and resume kicking ass across western Canada.

You do know that IA includes a lot of =I=censor=I= that rly breaks the game, like dreadnaught drop pods as Caros mentioned....

I also would not enjoy my opponent using non-super heavy baneblades in a normal game.... Anyways Imma be joining the Fluff league as things seem

Actually, there are only a few things that are really broken, like the lucius drop pod. Most stuff is way overcosted, something forgeworld has stated in their missives. Its to stop people using them to overpower and win against someone. Plus, not all IA is Super-heavies, which do un-balance regular 40k because of how difficult it is to kill them.
But, as we have all said, if you want to use a mega-dread, a siege dreadnought or some IA unit, you need your opponent's permission before hand.
The PA tournie allowed IA but no SHs or GCs. I didn't face that much, until my final game, when a guy pulled that retarded lucius drop pod on me, without warning me before hand.
"you can't assault out of that drop-pod"
"unh I can, see, that's a lucius..."
"doesn't... doesn't look any different to me..."
"naw its IA yo yo".

As far as the Tuff league is concerned (At least for my part), I'm saying : IF your opponent's ok with it, go ahead, but make sure you ask! IA are not 'in by default'.

Which, I believe, is the same way Robyn's been running it.

Eldar Titans. I'll never allow an opponent to use one outside of an apocalypse game.