changing my alligance

Guest Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:42 pm

i am thinking of starting a plauge marine armie i have some questions first of all can you use chaos marines and daemons in the same army
and how many points is a standered plauge marine finally is anyone selling them i am think of starting them because i want to play an army that is very hard to kill plus i like converting thing and chaos is really easy to convert i am not giving up on my eldar i still like my space elves
but i want an army that is better for beginners also sigh i have been performing quite poorly with my eldar i know prctice makes perfect
and i am just starting but i have not gotten a single minor victory yet so yeah..........

gluvzer Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:19 am

Wow, That hurt my brain to read...... Ben, PLEASE structure, use periods, comma's, etc....

System Commander Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:08 am

Ryan beat me to it.. but yeah Ben.. you serioulsy have to fix up the messages.

I got half way through reading the message and just skipped the rest. When it's written like that, it's hard to take the message serious.

ScottRadom Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:47 am

gluvzer wrote:Wow, That hurt my brain to read...... Ben, PLEASE structure, use periods, comma's, etc....

God you guys are tough. Learn to read! Ben used lot's of periods! He just saved them all for the end........

Veyure Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:09 pm

bensutherland333 wrote:can you use chaos marines and daemons in the same army

no

bensutherland333 wrote:and how many points is a standered plauge marine

i think 23 points

bensutherland333 wrote:is anyone selling them

i am not but i know not of anyone else

bensutherland333 wrote:i am not giving up on my eldar i still like my space elves but i want an army that is better for beginners also sigh i have been performing quite poorly with my eldar i know prctice makes perfect and i am just starting but i have not gotten a single minor victory yet so yeah..........

I played eldar as my first army against the stoon folks and i scored 0 wins until i switched to chaos. even with chaos i did not win for at least a couple months of gaming. I would suggest you not switch armies based on your win record but because you prefer the models, fluff, etc of the new army. best way to get better is to ask your opponents what you did wrong and learn from their advice. don't run away right after your game.

The rest of you need to stop picking on the kid so much.... he just needs a little advice.

System Commander Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:59 pm

Its not picking on.. I haven't mentioned it before but the last message was pretty rough to fight through. Message forums are not the place to let bad grammar slide.. were old.. and crotchety.. !

As for plague marines, it will probably be hard to find anyone sellinbg them because they are awesome. They are 26 points for one though, the most expensive of the cult troop units form the codex. I'm pretty sure they are a bit more per model over the thousand sons, but end up being just a bit chepaer per unit when you buy your mandatory sorceror.

It takes a long time to learn 40k.. and it's not just about knowing what your units can do, it's also about knowing what your opponents units can do to you and how the rules play into that. Eldar have alot of powerful offensive units that are specialized to specific things. They are low toughness, so you know you have to be especially wary of that during your games.

If the losses are getting you down, there's not much to say against that. The main priority for playing should always be to have fun, but at the same time winning is always good. The wins will come eventually, but the learning curve for 40k can be steep. Keep in mind your playing in a league with people who have been playing now for a long time. I dont believe that if I were to have taken it easy on you when we played that it owuld of made you a better player.

As such, you did very well when you played. You did a couple things that could of gotten me into trouble like keeping your wraithlord in reserve and getting a quick assault on the berserkers. The only reason yu eventually lost was primarily because I had more expeience than you and was able to keep my troops close to the objectives and made sure I had the right units fighting the battles I wanted.

So, my advice is just to keep playing. I've probably played at least 300 games with Khorne Berserkers in my army in my list and probably have assaulted almost everything in the game at one time or another.. so i know exactly what they are capable of doing against any unit. It just takes a litte bit of time.

Now, don't forget the breaks in the sentences. I could get pas tthe captials.. but you some periods man!

System Commander

ScottRadom Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:08 pm

Veyure wrote:The rest of you need to stop picking on the kid so much.... he just needs a little advice.

Here that guys! Let's pick on Greg!

Veyure Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:59 pm

bring it scott!

Aervyper Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:43 pm

I'd really suggest that you stick with eldar. However getting any advice for armies from a person like me is dangerous at best. I've got way too many armies as it is. I'm sure that over your games your getting better and your adjusting your stratedgies. You are also playing for the most part alot of good players in stoon.

If you are set on Chaos though i will pass along this thread. My friend pretty much read the Chaos codex went looking on 40konline and found this thread and he's a converted follower of nurgle now. Chaos Army Thread
Pretty much at the end he bakes out this list. I warn you to buy some earmuffs cuase alot of people will be screaming beardy. It's a vicious list though. Which may cause you more problems than loosing ever did.

HQ-Daemon Prince, wings
HQ-Daemon Prince, wings
T-10 Plague Marines, 2 Melta Guns, Champion + Fist, Rhino.
T-10 Plague Marines, 2 Melta Guns, Champion + Fist, Rhino.
T-10 Plague Marines, 2 Flamers Guns, Champion + Fist, Rhino.
Hvy-3 Oblits
Hvy-3 Oblits
Total: 1675 Points.

In the end whatever you choose is up to you. Don't get discouraged though it's the journey that's all the fun.

ScottRadom Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:11 pm

Veyure wrote:bring it scott!

I'm gonna mess your "alligance" all over the place. I'm gonna jack every one of your threads! I'm gonna messify with the light balance on all your pic's! I'm gonna point out every flaw in every plan you ever point out.

I'm gonna be up in your eGrill sucka!

Guest Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:12 pm

ok thank you for the advice i will try better grammer sorry i am so used to facebook

Paz Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:27 pm

bensutherland333 wrote:ok thank you for the advice i will try better grammer sorry i am so used to facebook

"Ok, thank you for the advice, I will try to use correct grammar. Sorry, I am used to Facebook."

Hey Ben, I post this purely to help you, I am not mocking.

ScottRadom Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:36 pm

Ben,

I think it pans out like this. Let me just get my old man hat on and hop up on this here soapbox....

The 'net is a clunky way to communicate and just like doing it face to face when you want to speak to people on a forum there are ways to do things well, and poorly.

So far for the most part everyone has treated you with a fair amount of respect and answered your questions. But in the same way that if you ran up into someone's face and started shouting a question there are right and wrong way's to speak to people. If you put a little more time and effort into your posts you will be rewarded accordingly from the fellow posters here, and likely everywhere. But bottom line is that it's just good practice to learn and utilize proper grammar, you'll never be old rockin' on a stoop somewhere wishing you HADN'T learned to communicate more effectively.

You can do it, it's no different then writing at school. If facebook uses that crappy form of communicvating I heartily reccomend not following suite and practice everywhere you can.

We were all young once, and some still are. But nobody got better by not trying. You can do it.

Allright, I'm off the soapbox for now.

By the way Eldar suck and are totally queer.

gluvzer Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:34 pm

ScottRadom wrote:By the way Eldar suck and are totally queer.

Same with Gregg

*Ryan High-Fives Scott OVER the Internet.

Guest Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:11 am

Ok,thanks again you guys are very helpful.

ScottRadom Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:54 am

bensutherland333 wrote:Ok,thanks again you guys are very helpful.

Atta boy! Way better post! It's much nicer than that queer stuff Gregg types!

-High fives Ryan OVER the internet-

Veyure Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:01 am

im not gay ryan. tried it once and it didn't really pan out...

ScottRadom Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:55 am

Veyure wrote:im not gay ryan. tried it once and it didn't really pan out...

Can't fool us!

Gregg.... The extra "g" is for the double dose of gaynes!

Veyure Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:41 pm

too bad there isn't an extra g in my name. you lose again.

ScottRadom Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:29 pm

Well damn! Ryan mis-spelled it. Let's pick on him!

System Commander Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:54 pm

This reminds me of the cripple fight from South Park..

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