black scars - blitskrieg!
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black scars - blitskrieg!
So yeah, i'm thinking about doing some counts-as Scars and this is what i'm thinking of fielding.
use that crazy army wide scout move to get close, drop a couple pods of marines in there to stir things up/distract/melta stuff... then hammer targets with bikes, lords and an ironclad.
1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1500
HQ: Kor'sarro Khan (1#, 150 pts)
. . 1 Kor'sarro Khan, 150 pts = (base cost 125) + Moondrakkan 25
HQ: Captain (1#, 200 pts)
. . 1 Captain, 145 pts = (base cost 90 + Storm Shield 15) + Artificer Armour 20 + Space Marine Bike 20
. . . . 1 The Burning Blade, 55 pts
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 210 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad, 146 pts = 9 * 14 (base cost 14) + Meltagun 10 + Multi-melta 10
. . . . 1 Sergeant, 29 pts = (base cost 14 + Melta Bombs 5 + Combi-Meltagun 10)
. . . . 1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 210 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad, 146 pts = 9 * 14 (base cost 14) + Meltagun 10 + Multi-melta 10
. . . . 1 Sergeant, 29 pts = (base cost 14 + Melta Bombs 5 + Combi-Meltagun 10)
. . . . 1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Elite: Ironclad Dreadnought (2#, 170 pts)
. . 1 Ironclad Dreadnought, 135 pts
. . . . 1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
use that crazy army wide scout move to get close, drop a couple pods of marines in there to stir things up/distract/melta stuff... then hammer targets with bikes, lords and an ironclad.
1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1500
HQ: Kor'sarro Khan (1#, 150 pts)
. . 1 Kor'sarro Khan, 150 pts = (base cost 125) + Moondrakkan 25
HQ: Captain (1#, 200 pts)
. . 1 Captain, 145 pts = (base cost 90 + Storm Shield 15) + Artificer Armour 20 + Space Marine Bike 20
. . . . 1 The Burning Blade, 55 pts
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Bike Squad (5#, 140 pts)
. . 4 Bike Squad, 114 pts = 4 * 21 (base cost 21) + Grav-gun x2 30
. . . . 1 Biker Sergeant, 26 pts = (base cost 21) + Melta Bombs 5
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 210 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad, 146 pts = 9 * 14 (base cost 14) + Meltagun 10 + Multi-melta 10
. . . . 1 Sergeant, 29 pts = (base cost 14 + Melta Bombs 5 + Combi-Meltagun 10)
. . . . 1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 210 pts)
. . 9 Tactical Squad, 146 pts = 9 * 14 (base cost 14) + Meltagun 10 + Multi-melta 10
. . . . 1 Sergeant, 29 pts = (base cost 14 + Melta Bombs 5 + Combi-Meltagun 10)
. . . . 1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Elite: Ironclad Dreadnought (2#, 170 pts)
. . 1 Ironclad Dreadnought, 135 pts
. . . . 1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Rhaevyn- Lord of Titan
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Re: black scars - blitskrieg!
Mike leaving the safety of his aegis lines? Impossibru!
Lol, but seriously, looks interesting. Bike armies are pretty scary stuff to face.
Lol, but seriously, looks interesting. Bike armies are pretty scary stuff to face.
Paz- Lord of Titan
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SURPRISE! Mike is milking the meta again. Lawls that's no surprise.
Seriously though that actually looks fun. I'd play it!
Seriously though that actually looks fun. I'd play it!
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Re: black scars - blitskrieg!
we can't all play taudar
Rhaevyn- Lord of Titan
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Re: black scars - blitskrieg!
funny thing is, my own CSM army would probably eat this list up, drakes and oblits love to eat them some bikes.GingerBalls wrote:SURPRISE! Mike is milking the meta again. Lawls that's no surprise.
Seriously though that actually looks fun. I'd play it!
Rhaevyn- Lord of Titan
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You'll have to have a game with yourself to find out.Rhaevyn wrote:funny thing is, my own CSM army would probably eat this list up, drakes and oblits love to eat them some bikes.GingerBalls wrote:SURPRISE! Mike is milking the meta again. Lawls that's no surprise.
Seriously though that actually looks fun. I'd play it!
GingerBalls- Lord of Titan
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Re: black scars - blitskrieg!
Interesting list Mike. We have to get another game in at some point. Then I can seize on you!
Why the extra captain? I'd dump him for a command squad or go all out for a fighty chapter master (withe the shield and TH).
Why the extra captain? I'd dump him for a command squad or go all out for a fighty chapter master (withe the shield and TH).
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Dude with Burning Blade? I don't think it's worth it. Storm Chicken might be a better spend.Aegwymourn wrote:Why the extra captain? I'd dump him for a command squad or go all out for a fighty chapter master (withe the shield and TH).
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Re: black scars - blitskrieg!
I'm not a fan of command squads. they don't score and i think if the extra lord can't mess up whatever i'm charging, then a squad of expensive bikers aren't going to help much.
If my enemy has a true deathstar unit, nothing on a bike is going to want to be in base contact with it... and i'll plink away at them with shooting until one of the lords can go in for the kill.
A captain with the sword is good for smashing into middle targets and i think for his points hes a decent buy. definitely harder than Khan is. i would probably jumble some points and get that Eternal Shield in there, probably instead of artificer armor.
a list like this should be able to pick its fights. and the whole plan is to cripple an opponent early and then eat away at its scoring units. Iether with shooting or Hit and run tactics Both khan and the lord can do pretty handily vs most armies. Hopefully threat overload will pay off.
**edit** i've had a lot of practice with flyers and i'm not a fan of the single flyer. its a ton of points for a second turn threat and generally folks are running interceptors of some kind now. the captain stays in theme and i can threaten with him on the first turn, even charge on the first turn if i am made to go second. we'll see. a second irconclad might be better anyway.
If my enemy has a true deathstar unit, nothing on a bike is going to want to be in base contact with it... and i'll plink away at them with shooting until one of the lords can go in for the kill.
A captain with the sword is good for smashing into middle targets and i think for his points hes a decent buy. definitely harder than Khan is. i would probably jumble some points and get that Eternal Shield in there, probably instead of artificer armor.
a list like this should be able to pick its fights. and the whole plan is to cripple an opponent early and then eat away at its scoring units. Iether with shooting or Hit and run tactics Both khan and the lord can do pretty handily vs most armies. Hopefully threat overload will pay off.
**edit** i've had a lot of practice with flyers and i'm not a fan of the single flyer. its a ton of points for a second turn threat and generally folks are running interceptors of some kind now. the captain stays in theme and i can threaten with him on the first turn, even charge on the first turn if i am made to go second. we'll see. a second irconclad might be better anyway.
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Re: black scars - blitskrieg!
Well the big thing with the bike command squad is you can pack the heat with 5 grav guns. That and the biker chapter master gets even better with FNP.
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