Double Force organization
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Double Force organization
ok so I some times have trubble with this so this is why Im asking
lets say I have 1 HQ 2 out 5 TROOPS and 3 havy slots filled I want to take more heavy units so I take a 2nd HQ 2 more TROOPS then a heavy. is this proper double FOC or must I max out all 5 troop slots frist
lets say I have 1 HQ 2 out 5 TROOPS and 3 havy slots filled I want to take more heavy units so I take a 2nd HQ 2 more TROOPS then a heavy. is this proper double FOC or must I max out all 5 troop slots frist
Dom.0- Inquisitor
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Re: Double Force organization
You can use a double force org when playing 2000 points and.up.
System Commander- System Commander
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Re: Double Force organization
1) There are 6 troop slots, not 5.
2) The minimum force representation for DFOC is indeed 2 HQs and 4 Troops, meaning you would have to add 1 HQ and 2 Troops to what you have listed, as you have said.
3) DFOC also has a second requirement of the list being at or above 2000 points. Given how inexpensive the Imperial Guard can be points wise, at least when it really wants to be, it is possible to make a list with 2 HQs, 4 Troops, and 6 Heavy Support but still not break 2000 points, and thus not qualify for the slots that would let you take Heavy Support slots 4, 5, and 6.
Here's an example of a super bare-bones list that, while filling up the minimum number of slots needed to unlock DFOC, doesn't cost enough points to actually use it.
HQ:
Company Command Squad, Castellan Creed. 140 pts
Lord Commissar. 70 pts
Troops:
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Heavy Support:
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
At 1180 points total, this list can't use the rules for DFOC and as such is illegal.
On the flip side:
HQ:
Company Comand Squad, Castellan Creed, Autocannon Team, Sniper Rifle x2, Camo Cloaks, Master of Ordnace. 210 pts
Lord Commissar, Camo Cloak, Power Weapon. 90 pts
Troops:
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Heavy Support:
Manticore, Camo Netting. 190 pts
Manticore, Camo Netting. 190 pts
Manticore, Camo Netting. 190 pts
Basilisk. 125 pts
Basilisk. 125 pts
Basilisk. 125 pts
This list works, as it satisfies all the conditions needed for DFOC. At least 2 HQs? Check. At least 4 Troops? Check. At least 2000 points? Check, as this list rings in at 2605 points.
2) The minimum force representation for DFOC is indeed 2 HQs and 4 Troops, meaning you would have to add 1 HQ and 2 Troops to what you have listed, as you have said.
3) DFOC also has a second requirement of the list being at or above 2000 points. Given how inexpensive the Imperial Guard can be points wise, at least when it really wants to be, it is possible to make a list with 2 HQs, 4 Troops, and 6 Heavy Support but still not break 2000 points, and thus not qualify for the slots that would let you take Heavy Support slots 4, 5, and 6.
Here's an example of a super bare-bones list that, while filling up the minimum number of slots needed to unlock DFOC, doesn't cost enough points to actually use it.
HQ:
Company Command Squad, Castellan Creed. 140 pts
Lord Commissar. 70 pts
Troops:
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Infantry Platoon: Platoon Command Squad, Infantry Squad x2. 130 pts
Heavy Support:
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
Griffon. 75 pts
At 1180 points total, this list can't use the rules for DFOC and as such is illegal.
On the flip side:
HQ:
Company Comand Squad, Castellan Creed, Autocannon Team, Sniper Rifle x2, Camo Cloaks, Master of Ordnace. 210 pts
Lord Commissar, Camo Cloak, Power Weapon. 90 pts
Troops:
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Platoon:
Platoon Command Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Heavy Flamer, Flamer x3.120 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Infantry Squad, Commissar, Power Weapon x2, Flamer. 110 pts
Heavy Support:
Manticore, Camo Netting. 190 pts
Manticore, Camo Netting. 190 pts
Manticore, Camo Netting. 190 pts
Basilisk. 125 pts
Basilisk. 125 pts
Basilisk. 125 pts
This list works, as it satisfies all the conditions needed for DFOC. At least 2 HQs? Check. At least 4 Troops? Check. At least 2000 points? Check, as this list rings in at 2605 points.
Planes- Lord of Titan
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Re: Double Force organization
good then I built my list corectly
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