New FW Heresy book

The new FW Horus heresy book is almost out.. and as usual its packed with all types of flavourful awesome units. Look at these Worldeater terminators.


Red Butchers ( elite )butcher terminator ws 5 bs 2 s 4 t 5 w 2 i 4 a 2 ld 8 sv 2+devoured ws 5 bs 2 s 4 t 4 w 2 i 4 a 3 ld 9 sv 2+may take 5 more red butcherswargear
-cataphractii pattern terminator armourpower axecombi bolteroptions
-any model may exchange their combi bolter for a second power axeany model may exchange both for a pair of lightning clawsthe devoured may exchange power axe for -power fist , chain fist , thunder hammerdevoured may exchange combi bolter for a combi weapon

special ruleslegiones astartes ( world eaters )ravening madmenfearlesshatred ( everything )feel no pain ( 6 + )unstoppable charge( ravening madmen - enemy models always hit the red butchers on a 3 + regardless of their weapon skill , red butchers can never be scoring units )(

unstoppable charge - may re-roll failed charge distances )may take either a proteus , phobos or spartan landraider

man, primarch's are where its at.

vulkan got a s10 ap1 thunderhammer, strikes at initiative, has armorbane, strikedown, and instant death. ugh.

lorgar (in his enlightened form) is a lvl 3 psyker, and he can CHOOSE what powers out of telekinesis or telepathy. choose. and he does psychic tests on 3d6, taking two lowest. gross.

I didnt mention the primarchs only because they have all been pretty awesomw.
Ferrus and Lorgars miniatures are pretty outstanding.
Everything about the FW Heresy line has been unbelievable.. including the price..

10 khorne Termies in a Spartan sounds like a close combat solution for chaos to me.

Bout ready to go full forge world Rob?

why doesnt anyone play 30k... not like most of yall dont have a marine army or two around. The game looks fantastic.

ol' dusky tiger has emperor's chillin's. and I think dan has some stuff as well.

I'm hitting up word bearers as soon as I see the models for the gal vorbak. cuz, come on, heresy era possesed? rending, rage, daemons etc etc. their rules look suweeeeet.

Well.. i do have 16 khorne terminators.. from FW !
The nice thing.. they also all have power axes.. except for thw couple that have powerfists and chainfists.. and i have three with dual claws.

The only drawback is i have two heavy flamers.. but thats not hard to mdel.

I would order an Angron to even play that army once.. *sigh*

Lorgar, Erebus and Kor are all fantastic models. I wish i had more money for toys..
They are also redesigning the dreadclaw.. and umm.. whats the super dread claw machine called.. i likey that as well

I like 30k, just like I liked badab, that said I am unsure of how well it plays vs std codex.

Dan and I are trying 30k wolves vs 40k ultras in about 30 min

I am waiting for Imperial Fists and Dorn. If they are awesome enough I will end up having to get him + enough to field a decent 30k army.

speaking of emperor's children, here's my predator after reassessing how to do the color on a vehicle:

So Dan's 30k marines killed everything that wasn't in my. Fortress by the end of turn 2. Needs more playtesting

I've heard from a lot of peeps online that it's pretty balanced, even a bit Shittier than 40k armies under 1500.
Past that tho, you really need to change the force org for 40k armies

Turn two tho... What was he using? I find that hard to believe, after reading betrayal.

I had
MotF/conversion beamer
Termie libby
2x riflemen
5 th/ss terms in a crusader
2x Tacts in a rhino
2x combat squads in lasback
Telion, 8 snipers, 1ml
2x typhoon
2x tornado
2x ac/las pred
4ml devs
Fortress of redemption
Kill points/vanguard
I got to pick sides and deploy first, nightfight is on
Scouts, devs, MotF, and a combat squad in the fortress.

He had
3x Contemptors
3x dakka preds
3x medusii
Hw squad (all ac)
2x2 rapier batteries
A bunch of breacher squads with apoths

He deployed his tanks back and put his infantry along the nomans land line.
Um turn 1. I moved everything but the preds forward. The rhinos and speeders all ran. Lost one speeder to diff terrain. Everything was either stealth or shrouded. My shooting amounted to a few infantry. Fortress couldnt hit anything.

30k turn 1. Exploded one dread. Stripped a ton of hull points (the crusader, a pred, and a lasback all sown to 1)

Um turn 2: more of the same. Krakstorm took out half his HW squad and half a preacher squad.

30k turn 2: preds kill one pred. Hw team kills lasback. Preacher squad kills the squishy bits. Rapiers pop LR and a rhino. One dread pops a speader, another, a rhino. Orbital bombardment takes out a solo speeder, takes out weapons on pred and a rhino. Medusas kill the infantry that came from rhino and lasback, preacher squad kills 3 Termies

Um turn 3:
Krakstorm scatters off board. A few hull points here and there. Termies fail a charge and 2 die to overwatch.

At this point the fortress is pristine. In front I have a typhoon, a damaged pred, a damaged rhino, a dread and a solo libby. On even average shooting my forces in front are toast. 14-0 kp. Game called.

I think it's still up in the air. We were at 3000 pts, my rolling sucked, etc.

We did some quick math, his army could drop a vehicle from each squadron, one rapier batt, a preacher sqd and be close to 2000. Need to play it at 1500-1750 a few times.

Dan... Dan dan dan. The idea is to get other people interested in 30k and show it's not a OP ruleset.
That list is pretty powergamery silly. No legion tactical squads? Tanks up the wazoo? I hope all those units were correctly modelled as 30k. Otherwise it defeats the purpose of using the heresy rules.
Is there even models for the medusa? 

Of note as well, past 1500 points you get access to the heresy force org, but you have to give benefits to the 40k armies as well, such as doubling their troop size max, and allowing them to use the same force org. Under 1500 it's standard force org as well. 

I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new books excited to see how these new units work.

I went with an iron worriors themed list and the point of the game we had was to see the difference between 30k and 40k, that's the reason I went that way, if I would have went with a wolf theme it would have been totally different