1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
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1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Ok, what do we think of this one?
HQ
Chaos Lord, Mark of Nurgle, Terminator Armour, Blight Grenades, Melta Bombs, Combi-Melta 137
Elites
10 Chaos Terminators, 9 Combi-Plasmas, Melta Bombs 362
Mutilator 55
Mutilator 55
Troops
10 Chaos Space Marines, Meltagun, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 165
10 Chaos Space Marines, Meltagun, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 165
10 Chaos Space Marines, Flamer, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 160
10 Chaos Space Marines, Flamer, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 160
13 Chaos Cultists, 11 Autoguns, Heavy Stubber 78
13 Chaos Cultists, 10 Autoguns, Heavy Stubber 77
Fast Attack
Spawn, MoN 36
Spawn, MoN 36
Spawn, MoN 36
Heavy Support
Obliterator, MoN 76
Obliterator, MoN 76
Obliterator, MoN 76
1750
A bit light on anti-vehicle shooting, but not terrible. Lots of bodies, and lots of anti-infantry. A decent deathstar as well.
HQ
Chaos Lord, Mark of Nurgle, Terminator Armour, Blight Grenades, Melta Bombs, Combi-Melta 137
Elites
10 Chaos Terminators, 9 Combi-Plasmas, Melta Bombs 362
Mutilator 55
Mutilator 55
Troops
10 Chaos Space Marines, Meltagun, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 165
10 Chaos Space Marines, Meltagun, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 165
10 Chaos Space Marines, Flamer, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 160
10 Chaos Space Marines, Flamer, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 160
13 Chaos Cultists, 11 Autoguns, Heavy Stubber 78
13 Chaos Cultists, 10 Autoguns, Heavy Stubber 77
Fast Attack
Spawn, MoN 36
Spawn, MoN 36
Spawn, MoN 36
Heavy Support
Obliterator, MoN 76
Obliterator, MoN 76
Obliterator, MoN 76
1750
A bit light on anti-vehicle shooting, but not terrible. Lots of bodies, and lots of anti-infantry. A decent deathstar as well.
Timbo- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Interesting.
I think it might be weak in Purge, Big Guns, and Scouring. You've got 10 kill points that are fairly easy to get, which includes your Fast Attack and Heavy Support.
If you dropped on unit of cultists and the Mutilators, you could take a heldrake with a baleflamer.
I think it might be weak in Purge, Big Guns, and Scouring. You've got 10 kill points that are fairly easy to get, which includes your Fast Attack and Heavy Support.
If you dropped on unit of cultists and the Mutilators, you could take a heldrake with a baleflamer.
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
I'm not a fan of giving upgrades to the champs at all. Too many points for too little benefit.
@Mark I may agree with you. I'd have to test it and see. There's no one-shot VPs, except possibly the mutilators. Will an opponent focus his fire on spawn and mutilators when there are actual threats in his face? Maybe.
As for the Heldrake, I don't hate the unit but it's a dedicated anti-infantry thing which this list does not need more of. This is a list that might benefit more from an Aegis line than a Heldrake.
@Mark I may agree with you. I'd have to test it and see. There's no one-shot VPs, except possibly the mutilators. Will an opponent focus his fire on spawn and mutilators when there are actual threats in his face? Maybe.
As for the Heldrake, I don't hate the unit but it's a dedicated anti-infantry thing which this list does not need more of. This is a list that might benefit more from an Aegis line than a Heldrake.
Timbo- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Whenever I think I have a half-ass decent Chaos list made I hold it up next to another army list. For example:
1750 Point Orks
HQ
Warboss w. Power Klaw, Kombi-Scorcha, Cybork Body 100
Warboss w. Power Klaw, Kombi-Scorcha, Cybork Body 100
Aegis Defence Line w. Quad Gun 100
Elites
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
Troops
3 Meganobz w. 3 Kombi-Scorchas 135
Trukk w. Boardin’ Plank 40
3 Meganobz w. 3 Kombi-Scorchas 135
Trukk w. Boardin’ Plank 40
30 Slugga Boyz (or Shoota if you prefer) 180
30 Slugga Boyz 180
10 Grotz w. Runtherd 40
10 Grotz w. Runtherd 40
Fast Attack
Deffcopta w. Buzzsaw 60
Dakkajet w. Extra Shoota 120
‘Eavy Support
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Total 1750 Points
This Ork list (courtesy of Phil Kelly) has more of everything good. More shooting, more bodies, fliers and flier defence, mobility, two mini-deathstars - that score. Sigh. Oh Chaos book.
1750 Point Orks
HQ
Warboss w. Power Klaw, Kombi-Scorcha, Cybork Body 100
Warboss w. Power Klaw, Kombi-Scorcha, Cybork Body 100
Aegis Defence Line w. Quad Gun 100
Elites
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
Troops
3 Meganobz w. 3 Kombi-Scorchas 135
Trukk w. Boardin’ Plank 40
3 Meganobz w. 3 Kombi-Scorchas 135
Trukk w. Boardin’ Plank 40
30 Slugga Boyz (or Shoota if you prefer) 180
30 Slugga Boyz 180
10 Grotz w. Runtherd 40
10 Grotz w. Runtherd 40
Fast Attack
Deffcopta w. Buzzsaw 60
Dakkajet w. Extra Shoota 120
‘Eavy Support
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Total 1750 Points
This Ork list (courtesy of Phil Kelly) has more of everything good. More shooting, more bodies, fliers and flier defence, mobility, two mini-deathstars - that score. Sigh. Oh Chaos book.
Timbo- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
The more i play with the chaos book.. The tougher it becomes to put on a happy face.. Hehe.
Going from grey knights to chaos is even worse.. I might revisit my road warrior style ork army.. The chaos book isnt livng.up.to my desire for assaulting willy nilly
Going from grey knights to chaos is even worse.. I might revisit my road warrior style ork army.. The chaos book isnt livng.up.to my desire for assaulting willy nilly
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Robyn, I trademarked this list! No stealing!
P.S. Also, I'm getting a little tired of all your negativity regarding the Chaos book. It's fine. Just keep drinking the kool-aid.
P.S. Also, I'm getting a little tired of all your negativity regarding the Chaos book. It's fine. Just keep drinking the kool-aid.
Timbo- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
That ork list is killer. I'm a huge fan of 5-man loota squads, by the way. Definitely the way to go.
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That ork list is very tight.
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That ork list is very tight.
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Thanks Mark! Wait, is "very tight" better than "super tight"? What is the tight hierarchy these days?
Timbo- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Tightarchy? I'd share it, but it's fantastically tight.
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Timbo wrote:Thanks Mark! Wait, is "very tight" better than "super tight"? What is the tight hierarchy these days?
That's what he said...
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Are we back talking about bears again?
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
If you're into that sorta thing....
Roland- Lord of Titan
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
here is something i was considering for league finals. armour saturation. I'de need to borrow one land raider. but i think it might catch some folks off guard.... I think Tim posted something similar in an earlier post.
Nothing but av 13 and 14 on the table turn 1. Cultists ride in style until the raiders go away or they need to snag an objective.
1795 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1791
Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)
Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)
Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)
Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts
Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts
Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts
Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts
Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts
Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts
Fast Attack: Chaos Bikers (3#, 126 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Bikers, 64 pts = 2 * 22 (base cost 20 + Mark of Slaanesh 2) + Meltagun x2 20
. . . . 1 Biker Champion, 62 pts = (base cost 30 + Mark of Slaanesh 2 + Lightning Claw x1 15 + Combi-Meltagun 10) + Melta Bombs 5
HQ: Sorcerer (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Sorcerer, 120 pts = (base cost 60 + Mark of Slaanesh 15 + Sigil of Corruption 25 + Steed of Slaneesh 20)
Nothing but av 13 and 14 on the table turn 1. Cultists ride in style until the raiders go away or they need to snag an objective.
1795 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1791
Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)
Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)
Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)
Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts
Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts
Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts
Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts
Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts
Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts
Fast Attack: Chaos Bikers (3#, 126 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Bikers, 64 pts = 2 * 22 (base cost 20 + Mark of Slaanesh 2) + Meltagun x2 20
. . . . 1 Biker Champion, 62 pts = (base cost 30 + Mark of Slaanesh 2 + Lightning Claw x1 15 + Combi-Meltagun 10) + Melta Bombs 5
HQ: Sorcerer (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Sorcerer, 120 pts = (base cost 60 + Mark of Slaanesh 15 + Sigil of Corruption 25 + Steed of Slaneesh 20)
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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*
Yeah, I posted a similar list but with 3 Vindis. You'll struggle against anything with numbers, but against a mech-heavy list you'll do fine. Those cultists are not going to have fun when those land raiders blow up.
Necrons will take your lunch money too.
Necrons will take your lunch money too.
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