Eldar on a budget.

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Eldar on a budget.

Post  Timbo on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:50 am

I like the new post-Gavin Thorpe Eldar list. It is not broken, and I would not be embarassed to play it anymore. In fact, Eldar seem to have some of the crappiest, most overcosted infantry in the game (dark reapers, rangers, swooping hawks, shining spears). Their troop choices are ok for the cost, but not exceptional. So, I started pricing out an army and quickly figured out that any non-marine, non-ork army is really freaking expensive! $5 guardians! $18 wraithguard! WTF? The only decent deal is the Eldar Battleforce box which essentially gives the purchaser a free box set. So I took a closer look the battleforce to see if it contained any units that suck. Wave serpent, those are good. Dire avengers, those are okay. Guardians, need some of those. War walker, what do those do now? Hey, those are really cool! OK, so without further ado, here is my 3 battleforce Eldar army. All I need to add is a couple wraithlords (obviously), 3 characters, and some wraithguard (come on Darren!). The meat of the army is the 3 battleforce box sets:

Farseer w Guide 75

20 Guardians w Shuriken Cannon 165
10 Storm Guardians w 2 Fusion Guns Warlock w Singing Spear Embolden 125
Wave Serpent w TL Shuriken Cannon 100
10 Dire Avengers w Exarch w Double Catapult 137
Wave Serpent w TL Shuriken Cannon 100
10 Dire Avengers w Exarch w Double Catapult 137
Wave Serpent w TL Shuriken Cannon 100
10 Wraithguard w Spiritseer w Enhance 396

Wraithlord w Shuriken Cannon Scatter Laser 120
Wraithlord w Shuriken Cannon Scatter Laser 120
3 War Walkers w 6 Shuriken Cannons 120

1695 points!

So, 44 strength 6 shots per turn. 1 HQ, 5 troops and 3 heavy support. Good mobility. A little light on heavy vehicle killing, but the storm guardians and wraithguard can shoot them, or they can be assaulted by witchblades or wraithlords. And all for under $500 or so...

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  System Commander on Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:29 am

That looks like a pretty simple yet solid list. . I'm guessing the wraithguard and fusion guns are on tank hunting duty?

It will tear the hell out of any infantry list, thats for sure. There are two things that I find quite frightening in an Eldar list. The first.. are Dark Reapers. Those guys are terrifying for any chaos marine army.. especially now tht they got 3+ armor to.. so, any Eldar army without them I love! However, an underused yet extremely powerful unit I find is the 3 warwalkers with someone to guide them.. eek.

If you set-up in front of me with this list, this is what I would do. If I could the wraithguard wave serpent on the first turn, I'd probably try a few shots with heavy guns hoping to shoot it before it gets a chance to move falt out and get glancing shots. Barring that, I'd pour anything that couldnt shoot at it towards the war walkers until they were all stunned or partially destroyed and severely weakened. The rest would fall about equal in priority, but those two would be enemies number 1!

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  Timbo on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:23 pm

The wraithguard have to walk (or perhaps run! Very Happy ) in this list. The serpents carry the two units of dire avengers and the storm guardians. Do you honestly think dark reapers are good for 35 points a model? I've never seen a unit pay for itself. Every army has some form of long range shooting that will be able to target them, and these guys die easier than 15 point space marines.

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Post  Timbo on Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:10 am

OK, operation Get Inexpensive Wraithguard has stalled, so I'm exploring other options. It's nice to have a counterassaulty-type unit in a shooty army, and for Eldar that means harlequins or banshees (or I guess an avatar). Banshees seem ok, but are pretty vulnerable to enemy shooting, and cannot assault vehicles. Harlequins are practically immune to long-range shooting and can assault almost anything (except ironically, banshees). So harlequins it is:

Farseer w Guide 75

10 Harlequins w Troupe Master w Power Weapon w Shadowseer w all Kisses 266

10 Guardians w Shuriken Cannon 85
20 Guardians w Scatter Laser w Warlock w Enhance 215
10 Storm Guardians w 2 Fusion Guns Warlock w Singing Spear Embolden 125
Wave Serpent w TL Shuriken Cannon 100
10 Dire Avengers w Exarch w Double Catapult 137
Wave Serpent w TL Shuriken Cannon 100
10 Dire Avengers w Exarch w Double Catapult 137
Wave Serpent w TL Shuriken Cannon 100

Wraithlord w Shuriken Cannon Scatter Laser 120
Wraithlord w Shuriken Cannon Scatter Laser 120
3 War Walkers w 6 Shuriken Cannons 120

1700 points!

With the big guardian squad enhanced now and the harlequins the army is much better at assaulting. It still has 5 troop choices, although one is considerably weaker than before. I'm going to run it and see how it does!

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  Veyure on Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:19 am

You are definately going to be dropping infantry pretty quick with this list. Im wondering about your tank killing ability. smart gamers will avoid your wraithlords and the fusion guns don't have much range...

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  Guest on Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:09 pm

are you insane,dark reapers own marines and since everybody plays them. They own even more put a farseer in a unit they get shots on a tactical squad its dead.

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Post  Timbo on Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:38 pm

Veyure I agree, tank killing is a bit of an issue. I can maneuver for flank and rear shots with the wave serpents and (possibly) flank marching war walkers. The fusion gun armed guardians are in a wave serpent, so they have a decent potential range. I have several units that can assault and kill vehicles also (harlequins, wraithlords, anything with a witchblade). Option B is always kill all of the infantry quickly and hope the tanks can't win the game for them. We'll have to see if that's a viable option once the Imperial Guard codex comes out!

Ben to answer your question: no I am not insane. How many marines did your 200 point (that's an approximation I know it's possibly a little more or less) reaper unit kill in our 2 games? 6 in the first and 2 in the second? If (and that's a big if) you're shooting marines in the open you will need 3 turns to kill your points back. Add a farseer, and your unit is nearing 300 points. This is a fragile unit that can be shot or assaulted by anything. I'm just not a fan. I know you like them, but I think we can agree to disagree.

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  Guest on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:54 pm

ok i am just voicing my opinion. You can voice yours

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  Timbo on Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:53 am

Thank you!

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Re: Eldar on a budget.

Post  TheRanger on Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:00 pm

thats a realy good list . i think its going to be effective i would love to see it in action.

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