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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:47 am

Wow, this book will keep my brain busy for a bit. Lots of fun to be had. It's like the Chaos Book, except it works.

For Thiessen, we're looking at Bolter shenanigans. Might take the crappier fighter if the Devistation Banner works with Hurricane bolters, as I like the idea of shooting 24 of something from one thing... It's like a ghost ark, at that point (never mind the rift cannon).

Bikes are amazing.

Everything is "good" basically. There's care to be taken, it's not like the Grey Knight book where a monkey can write a competitive list by accident, but I think, power wise, it's up there with Necrons. I hear launching Rad Grenades is fun...

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Post  Roland on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:07 pm

Note it has some shenangans with Rad and Stasis.... but it is NOT Psychotrope Grenades/Mindshackle scarabs. I guess I generally dislike "I get to attack you, but you do not have the option of attacking me back/STOP HITTING YOURSELF, BEAU!!!"

I was probably teased too much as a child....

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Post  Planes on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:17 pm

I have to admit, though, MSS is my favorite way to kill a Daemon Prince. "I guess mine is the only worthy head on the field!" *splort*

That Salvo banner just keeps getting scarier and scarier.

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Re: Smashing Face with Dark Angels

Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:20 pm

Well, Ezekial or a Libby can roll twice on Telepathy. Not that I would, because Divination is full of win.

65 point Librarian joins a tactical unit, pretty swanky. 100 points for same guy, lvl 2. I'm not sure on this, 2 rolls on divination, there's a chance you could get stuck with Scryers Gaze. Otherwise, giving 4++, Forewarning, Misfortune, or that other power :-P is all good. I prefer the buffs as they can't be denied.

Telekinisis is interesting as it has a 12" range nova power, crush, telekine dome (KFF, basically), and some other nifty stuff, but it's just nifty, it's not Divination :-)

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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:21 pm

Is it a banner or something that allows you to roll an extra die for all Leadership Tests, dropping the highest? Take that, Mindshackle Scarabs.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:35 pm

65 point librarian join IG blob.
takes divination primaris power.
FRFSRF! order is issued.
wins.

Azrael Joins IG blob /w many power axe sargeants.
gives fearless and 4+ invuln save.
marches accross the field
wins.

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Post  Roland on Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:38 pm

Wouldnt you end up rooling 4 and dropping the highest? And none of the Banners do dat.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:53 pm

Mike: Ya, that's kinda good. DA is a battle-brothers with IG such that you could do that?

Beau: I remember reading that somewhere in the book.... +1D6 for leadership tests, drop the highest (so 4D6 drop highest, bottom 3 for mindshackle). Is it the perfidious relic? ... gah I don't have the book memorized yet.

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I grabbed a box of Veterans for Thiessen's command squad, Darren had a box at the old price ($29) so it was a steal. Put them in a Razorback (with the devistation banner), flanked with Azreal and a 10-man and a Libby and a 10-man... lots of win to be had there. Although, Rhino's might make those tacticals better too. I'd like to play-test a few games to see, 1500pts anyone? :-)

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Post  Roland on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:06 pm

The Pervy Relic gives Adamantium Will and Fear. Dont have my BRB on me, but thats likely the one you are thinking of.

Am I the only one getting kinda PO'd by special rules granting other special rules?

"Backpack of Awesomeness grants Meek shall inherit and Divine Retribution......

Meek Shall Inherit grants Fearless and Furious Charge

Divine Retribution grants Hatred and Prefered Enemy....."

You end up looking up 3-5 different special rules just to find out what the damn thing does.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:13 pm

5 Typhoons in a squadron is 375 points. Have an 80pt Darkshroud nearby, their jink save is 4+.

5 Typhoons would get 10 Krak shots, or 10 Frag Shots. ... Staggering.

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Post  Roland on Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:18 pm

This is the case for the Darkshroud (pair it with Black Knights......)


Now one for the the other derp speeder.
LS Vengeance: how to use it.

Deploy it front and center. When your opponent is overcome with laughter, take a baseball bat to his most powerful unit. Continue until he stops laughing.

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Re: Smashing Face with Dark Angels

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:15 pm

Battle brothers. yesss precious

If the vengeance had been twin-linked. like the model appears to be... it might not have been that bad. but a 2HP vehicle shooting multiple gets hot shots in a turn with no save?

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Re: Smashing Face with Dark Angels

Post  Roland on Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:21 pm

or 36" range......
or AV 11 al around w/ 3 HP
or a better looking model (why not put th cupola/pulpit like he was standing in the passengers seat?)
In short, its a lot of fail.

Just think how awesome it'll be in 7th tho!

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Re: Smashing Face with Dark Angels

Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:31 pm

40 less points.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:37 pm

The "Courage of the Lion" warlord trait, all units within 12" of the Warlord roll an extra dice for all leadership tests and drop the highest. Suck on that, Necrons. Also, if you have Azreal on the board, all those mindshackle tests are on LD 10, regardless of who it hits.

4D6, drop the highest.... I'd have to math it out, but you should pass Mindshackle around 77% of the time.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:45 pm

dont think its as high as 77%, in fact i dont think it changes the odds much at all. the average of the 3d6 leftover is still going to be like 10.5. which is a fail.

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Post  System Commander on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:32 am

Im not going to brag or anything, but I've only failed one mindshackle test.. ever! Haha!

I also have 8 rhinos, not for sale.

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Post  da bear on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:36 am

I've never had to make a mind shakle test ha I win, I think, and only 8 robyn I'm shocked lol everthing has a price my good friend

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Post  System Commander on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:16 pm

Your right.. Id sell all of those death traps.

Dan.. Lets have a game sometime!

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Re: Smashing Face with Dark Angels

Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:33 pm

You lose a game of 40k if you have no models at the end of any Game Turn, so Beau, feel free to deathwing assault a whole army, it's risk free... well, except for your bad luck on deep strikes lately.

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Post  Roland on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:45 pm

It isnt bad luck, its HORRIBLE luck. I've had 2 max range derp strikes and several that scattered double digits.

Trying to figure out how to get some RW in there, but it seems like I have to cut too much...

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Post  Roland on Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:08 pm

Heres a question..... I take a RW squad. I take the speeder and attack bike.

Does the attack bike have Hit and Run/Scouts/Teleport homer etc? (I would assume yes)

Does the speeder have the above (Since its part of the Attack Sqd) or does it have EXACTLY whats listed under the support sqd? (I would assume the support squadron)


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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:43 pm

I don't know... I'd have to double check my codex. I'd lean towards "No"?

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Post  Rhaevyn on Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:34 pm

I wish to god GW would get on android available codecies. I haven't found a scan yet and its not so good for my image to be pulling out what appears to be a giant hardbound Graphic novel at my desk while giving my employees the evil eye to get back to work.

GW: i want to give you money. plz comply. thx.

In most cases.. a physical item such a homer, signum, the old chaos icons were carried by one specific model.. which could be sniped.. i wouldnt imagine that there would be a homer attached to every bike. the USRs though should be applied to the whole squad.

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Re: Smashing Face with Dark Angels

Post  Roland on Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:42 pm

Thats the thing. The LS is never actually "attached" to rest of the squad so it would make sense it would follow the rules for the support Sqd (they dont even give the LS a stat line in the entry, I guess it would sorta be like a Techmarine taking Sevitors). Im pretty sure we all agree how it SHOULD be interrpeted, it just seemed off to me in how it was written.

RW have had a TH on each bike since the 4th ed codex. Theyve been really clear on that.

Make an old school book cover and write "TPS reporting" on it....Smile

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