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Post  GingerBalls Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:40 am

Can't decide which is better of the 2 below. I have an affinity for crisis suits but I always find more bodies on the battlefield is just better. Thoughts?

+++ Escalation Round 2 (1000pts) +++

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Tau Dawn Blade Contingent) (1000pts) ++

+ Core (Dawn Blade) (776pts) +

Retaliation Cadre (776pts)
····Commander [2x MV1 Gun Drone]
········XV8 Commander Crisis Suit [Burst Cannon, Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator, Vectored Retro-Thrusters]
····XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
········Riptide Shas'vre [Ion Accelerator, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster]
····XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual, 2x MV1 Gun Drone]
········Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Plasma Rifle]
········Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Plasma Rifle]
····XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual, 2x MV1 Gun Drone]
········Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Missile Pod]
········Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Missile Pod]
····XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual, 2x MV1 Gun Drone]
········Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Missile Pod]
········Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Missile Pod]
····XV88 Broadside Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
········Broadside [Twin-linked High-Yield Missile Pod, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]

+ Auxiliary (Dawn Blade) (224pts) +

Drone-Net VX1-0 (224pts)
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]

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+++ Escalation Round 2 - 2 (1000pts) +++

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (776pts) ++

+ HQ (165pts) +

Commander Farsight (165pts)

+ Elites (401pts) +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuits (186pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual]
····Riptide Shas'vre [Ion Accelerator, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster]

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits (215pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 3x MV1 Gun Drone]
····Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Plasma Rifle]
····Crisis Shas'ui [Burst Cannon, Plasma Rifle]
····Crisis Shas'vre [Command and Control Node, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Puretide Engram Neurochip]

+ Troops (210pts) +

Strike Team (70pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]

Strike Team (70pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]

Strike Team (70pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle]
····Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]

++ Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (224pts) ++

+ Formation (224pts) +

Drone-Net VX1-0 (224pts)
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]
····Drones [4x MV7 Marker Drone]

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Post  Aegwymourn Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:51 am

The first list is the clear winner in terms of firepower and flexibility.
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Post  GingerBalls Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:17 pm

And command benefits, and markerlight output.

But the second one has Farsight. Dat no scatter deep strike.
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Post  Aegwymourn Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:48 pm

GingerBalls wrote:And command benefits, and markerlight output.

But the second one has Farsight. Dat no scatter deep strike.

Deep Strike is generally bad though. Unless you auto come in first turn, or can assault from it generally it means you give up 1+ turns of table presence for not much gain. The only way (in Tau) that I see it being useful is to get a comm relay (need those re-rolls!) and two individual piranhas with homing beacons since they do not have the caveat of having been on the board at the start of the turn so they can outflank first and then you deep strike without scatter next to them.

Even that I think is meh, because you can skip all the farting around and just take the mirror team or w/e and shoot people in the butt.
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Post  GingerBalls Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:15 pm

Retaliation Cadre comes on automatically on turn 2 but you have to reserve everything, which means a whole turn (or 2) with only 16 drones on the board. I like deep striking the plasma suits to get in close but the rest I gave ranged weapons so they can stay on the board turn 1 and kite.

Optimized stealth teams are the butt shooters, and they are pretty fun. I had a team do fairly well against Pascal's skitarii but I haven't had a chance to use it since.
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