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Re: ~Eldar pics oouuuttttt!~
Rumors are going nuts
Craftworld builds are done via formations like the decurion
Wraithknight is a LOW! Wraithcannons are d weapons! The sword is a d weapon! You get a d weapon! And you get a d weapon!
Have seen nothing concrete on a nerf to serpent shield.
Love the new bikes.
Craftworld builds are done via formations like the decurion
Wraithknight is a LOW! Wraithcannons are d weapons! The sword is a d weapon! You get a d weapon! And you get a d weapon!
Have seen nothing concrete on a nerf to serpent shield.
Love the new bikes.
Roland- Lord of Titan
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That's a jetbike mounted scatterlaser. Interesting.
Makes sense that a Wraithknight would be a LoW now, this pleases me.
Makes sense that a Wraithknight would be a LoW now, this pleases me.
Spamus Eatus- Inquisitor Lord
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Spamus Eatus wrote:That's a jetbike mounted scatterlaser. Interesting.
Makes sense that a Wraithknight would be a LoW now, this pleases me.
Dallas has 2 2 many.
Although, my Eldar list is now short 300 points for non-LOW games. Ian, how much you want for all ur stuffs again? *laughs*
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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Is that out this weekend!?
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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1 Wraithknight = *high five*
System Commander- System Commander
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Thank god for WK going LoW
Paz- Lord of Titan
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the guy's just assuming its becoming a LOW though, cause the weapons are becoming D and he's upgraded to gargantuan. that doesnt always mean LOW. until another rumor posts that it is, i wouldn't count on someone's second hand assumptions based on stat changes.
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Truthfully.. i never had a problem with the wraithknight.. or even 2. However, 3 wraithknights with 3+ wave serpents.. that gets a bit rough to take.
If it has a D ranged though.. i sure hopes it an LoW.. or what a mess.
If it has a D ranged though.. i sure hopes it an LoW.. or what a mess.
System Commander- System Commander
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Those pesky elves.
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I'd like to point out that I had an Iyanden army before they were amazing
Aegwymourn- Lord of Titan
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Welp, the hopes of only 1 Wraithknight have been dashed unless the Eldar Decurion is complete crap. Even then, the ability to bring up to 12 WKs per Ur-Formation is there...
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But... why?
For model sales? If thats the case, they should have also made a Bloodthirster detachment. As it is, i don't think Bloodthirsters are a must have for a daemonkin army. Not as much impact as a Wraithknight brings for eldar.
Can't be for fluff reasons either. Just.. odd. I realize its only for a "fun" game... or.. maybe Wraithknights will only be 125 points?
For model sales? If thats the case, they should have also made a Bloodthirster detachment. As it is, i don't think Bloodthirsters are a must have for a daemonkin army. Not as much impact as a Wraithknight brings for eldar.
Can't be for fluff reasons either. Just.. odd. I realize its only for a "fun" game... or.. maybe Wraithknights will only be 125 points?
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from faiet wrote:(Formations) Here they are.
Core: Guardian Hosts 1-3
Guardian Battlehost
1 farseer
3 guardian defenders
1 vyper squadron
1 war walkers
1 vauls wrath support battery
0-1 warlock conclave
Windrider Host
1 farseer
1 warlock conclave
3 windriders
1 vyper squadron
Guardian Stormhost
1 farseer
3 storm guardians
1 vyper squadron
1 war walkers
1 vaul's wrath support battery
0-1 warlock conclave
Command: Regents of the Warhost 0-3 per Guardian Host
Heroes of the craftworld
1 autarch, prince yriel, eldrad or illic nightspear
Seer Council
2 farseers
1 warlock council
Living Legends
1 avatar, Jain Zar, Asurmen, Karandras, Fuegan, Baharroth, or Maugan Ra
Auxiliary: 1-12 per Guardian Host
Outcasts
1 Rangers
Crimson Death
3 Crimson Hunters
Aspect Host
3 Dire Avengers, Howling Banshees, Striking Scorpions, Fire Dragons, Swooping Hawks, Dark Reapers, Warp Spiders or Shining Spears, in any combination
Dire Avenger Shrine
3 Dire Avengers
Wraith Constructs
1 Hemlock Wraith fighter, wraithlord, or wraithknight
Wraith Host
1 spiritseer
3 wraithguard or wraithblades in any combination
1 wraithlord
1 wraithknight
Engines of Vaul
1 night spinner,
1 fire prism, or
1 falcon
Re: ~Eldar pics oouuuttttt!~
Lore Weaver wrote:Spamus Eatus wrote:That's a jetbike mounted scatterlaser. Interesting.
Makes sense that a Wraithknight would be a LoW now, this pleases me.
Dallas has 2 2 many.
Although, my Eldar list is now short 300 points for non-LOW games. Ian, how much you want for all ur stuffs again? *laughs*
Make me an offer.
GingerBalls- Lord of Titan
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The guardian hosts are like ~600ish points no? If the wraithknight goes up to 400 points, you MIGHT fit 3, you'll probably only fit 2.
And have a great big hole of point you'd need to fill for a battleforged list.
More to the point. 1 WKnight will be the likely norm. I suspect 2 will not get a lot of repeat players.
I think it's not a LOW, big heavy support ala Morkanaut. Which makes 0 sense as they've pitted it against Knights and other big stuff and it ripped em apart.
And have a great big hole of point you'd need to fill for a battleforged list.
More to the point. 1 WKnight will be the likely norm. I suspect 2 will not get a lot of repeat players.
I think it's not a LOW, big heavy support ala Morkanaut. Which makes 0 sense as they've pitted it against Knights and other big stuff and it ripped em apart.
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Those 1-12 options.. or like the Daemonkin book.. 1-8 are the ones that get a little scary or out of hand. I dont think we'll see it.. but the wonkiness they present seems a bit scary. We probably wont see it here, but theres something about that max size that makes say.. taking 5 maulerfiends seem ok. I could take 8.. but i only took 5.
But why 12? Is there anything in there that you take 12 of in say a 2000 point game along with the min sized mandatory host? The ranger one?
Maybe its just old fuddy duddy thinking?
I like where the balance in the game is at right now.. if we can reign in the serpent/wraithknight slightly.. we'd be in good shape.
But why 12? Is there anything in there that you take 12 of in say a 2000 point game along with the min sized mandatory host? The ranger one?
Maybe its just old fuddy duddy thinking?
I like where the balance in the game is at right now.. if we can reign in the serpent/wraithknight slightly.. we'd be in good shape.
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My ears were burning.
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Is no one else excited about the new jetbikes???? That is possibly the one thing i am most stoked about out of all this. Finally a warlock on a bike and a farseer! Also i heard that you will be able to also make shining spears out of the jetbike kit, even better!!! Also the codex is apparently 160 pages, possibly getting a space marine type treatment with a few special rules depending on the craftworld. For me those things are far more exciting than whether or not the WK is a LOW or not.
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Rules roundup at BoLS
"Wraithknight = 295 points, LoW. Comes stock with 2 heavy wraithcannons, same options as before, but both options are free.
All weapons that previously were distort weapons are now strength D.
D-scythes are -1 on the d-table and count as s4 for instant death purposes.
Crimson Hunters the same but 140 points.
Jetbikes are the same as in WD. No typos, for those of you desperately hoping for that.
Avatar, the same and a LoW.
Wraithguard, same points as before.
Wraithblades are 30 points and have rage.
Hemlock, same points, ML2, can take telepathy, runes of battle, or sanctic.
No one has access to malefic.
Serpent shield is s6, 2d6 shots, ignores cover, 24" and once per game. Serpents are 110 points base.
Swooping Hawks move 18" and can attack flyers.
Striking Scorpions get stealth and shrouded until they shoot or assault someone.
Banshees get grenades (basically) and add 3" to moves.
Shining Spears get a 4+ cover save if they moved, otherwise the same.
Dire Avengers fire overwatch on bs2.
Squadrons are a-go for HS vehicles. With bonuses. Falcons can deepstrike without scattering in units of 3, night spinners get +1 strength for every vehicle, fire prisms get +1 strength and -1 ap for every vehicle."
"Wraithknight = 295 points, LoW. Comes stock with 2 heavy wraithcannons, same options as before, but both options are free.
All weapons that previously were distort weapons are now strength D.
D-scythes are -1 on the d-table and count as s4 for instant death purposes.
Crimson Hunters the same but 140 points.
Jetbikes are the same as in WD. No typos, for those of you desperately hoping for that.
Avatar, the same and a LoW.
Wraithguard, same points as before.
Wraithblades are 30 points and have rage.
Hemlock, same points, ML2, can take telepathy, runes of battle, or sanctic.
No one has access to malefic.
Serpent shield is s6, 2d6 shots, ignores cover, 24" and once per game. Serpents are 110 points base.
Swooping Hawks move 18" and can attack flyers.
Striking Scorpions get stealth and shrouded until they shoot or assault someone.
Banshees get grenades (basically) and add 3" to moves.
Shining Spears get a 4+ cover save if they moved, otherwise the same.
Dire Avengers fire overwatch on bs2.
Squadrons are a-go for HS vehicles. With bonuses. Falcons can deepstrike without scattering in units of 3, night spinners get +1 strength for every vehicle, fire prisms get +1 strength and -1 ap for every vehicle."
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I'm not worried about formations, I'm worried about CAD. A jetseer and 2 windrider sqds will run about 300 pts.
Farseer+ 3 warlocks on bikes
2x5 jetbikes all with s. Cannons
Wraithknight
Take that in each CAD.
That's ~1750, yes?
Farseer+ 3 warlocks on bikes
2x5 jetbikes all with s. Cannons
Wraithknight
Take that in each CAD.
That's ~1750, yes?
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I'm liking this!
The only real issue is the Wraithknight at 295, (I think between 350-400). Past that, beefs are more with how the LOW slot works.
The only real issue is the Wraithknight at 295, (I think between 350-400). Past that, beefs are more with how the LOW slot works.
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Do we know yet if the wraithknight is a Garg or still a MC?
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Yes the Wraith Knight is suppose to be a GG creature. Think what some people are forgetting that this thing can fire at different targets. So yah kill a land raider with one and kill a centurion with the other wraith cannon. Or put a couple blight lances or something and the crazy cheesee options are endless. Or the sword sheild and duo blight lances combo. And for 295... really
Yah and the hawks can attack flyers on a 4 up str 4 ap 4 haywire. So a squad of 10 at 160 pts will kill your 200 pt flying pigeon or hell turkey in one go. Well maybe two goes with the hell turkey.
Like the serpent sheild nerf and no more laser lock. I went against a 5 serpent list on the weekend and well... It was interesting...
Think Im going to phone up a college buddy and see if he can make up a super smelly cheese batch and sell it under the brand name of Eldar. lol
But shouldn't judge to much. I know I was one of the people that was discussed when the new Grey Knight codex was released. And now I love the Grey Knights. But would I field it against eldar.. hell no. I only have 25 models in the 1850 list. Eldar can table a 25 model list by turn three. Guess I was hoping for a like more balance. But yah the eldar can field a lot of d weapons soon. Will be interesting to see how codex pans out.
Yah and the hawks can attack flyers on a 4 up str 4 ap 4 haywire. So a squad of 10 at 160 pts will kill your 200 pt flying pigeon or hell turkey in one go. Well maybe two goes with the hell turkey.
Like the serpent sheild nerf and no more laser lock. I went against a 5 serpent list on the weekend and well... It was interesting...
Think Im going to phone up a college buddy and see if he can make up a super smelly cheese batch and sell it under the brand name of Eldar. lol
But shouldn't judge to much. I know I was one of the people that was discussed when the new Grey Knight codex was released. And now I love the Grey Knights. But would I field it against eldar.. hell no. I only have 25 models in the 1850 list. Eldar can table a 25 model list by turn three. Guess I was hoping for a like more balance. But yah the eldar can field a lot of d weapons soon. Will be interesting to see how codex pans out.
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