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Post  Rhaevyn Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:27 am

So... does a daemon prince with a combat familiar get an extra 2 attacks at Str 4 ap 2 because of smash?

CSM dex wrote:A model with a combat familiar makes two additional
Strength 4 AP- Melee Attacks.

rulebook wrote:Smash

All of the close combat attacks, except Hammer of Wrath attacks, of a model with this special rule are resolved at AP2 (unless it’s attacking with an AP1 weapon).
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Post  Matthew G Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:38 am

In a case like this doesn't codex trump rulebook?
My gut wants to say it's still str 4 AP -, but honestly I dunno.
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Post  Aegwymourn Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:11 am

Matthew G wrote:In a case like this doesn't codex trump rulebook?
My gut wants to say it's still str 4 AP -, but honestly I dunno.


I would agree that the intent is obvious that they should just be str 4 ap-, but GW didn't write it that way. RAW they are close combat attacks of the model and smash gives all close combat attacks ap2.

Unfortunately it is "codex trumps rulebook when there is a conflict". The way GW has written these two rules there isn't a conflict. It is the same as smash giving a demon prince with the black mace (normally ap4) ap2.
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Post  Rhaevyn Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:20 am

got to model me up a sexy slannesshi daemon princeess with a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other to count as spell familiar and combat familiar.
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Post  System Commander Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:01 pm

This has been around since the codex first came out... but never really gets brought up since most people focus on the daemon book princes. 

But yeah.. his combat familiar attacks should be at ap2. The argument used to always be based on does having the combat familiar give you an additional smash attack.. and the arguments for/against it. 

Ive never taken a csm prince before.. but if i did he'd have a combat familiar !
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