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Post  dusktiger on Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:11 am

here's some pics of the tentative scheme for the vehicles in the army:

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Post  Lore Weaver on Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:35 am

Nice scheme, love the blue.


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Post  dusktiger on Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:50 am

thanks mark. yea, im planning on getting a set of them.  im actually thinking of a list with a bunch of troops, a set of barges, and a bunch of destroyers.  destroyers just seem like they'd be good in 6th; 36" threat range with an AP 3 weapon.

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Post  Aegwymourn on Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:14 am

I think the parts with just metal on them need something. With the blue, black, and gold the pieces with metal look ..... unfinished? I dunno.

The rest of the scheme is cool though.


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Post  dusktiger on Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:58 am

yea.....that's been nagging me today too.  maybe if i do something to the etchings.  not sure yet.

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Post  Aegwymourn on Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:00 pm

Well the problem is that it is both metallic and bright. Which naturally pulls the eye to it. Then when you look to the rest of the model it seems to not fit as much. Maybe a wash to make it a bit duller so it doesn't *pop* as much?

edit: although this could just be me so I'd get more opinions first!  Smile 

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Post  dusktiger on Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:21 pm

i took another shot without any flash. still makes the silver look brighter than it really is though.  overall, i want the shiny metal look to show this dynasty survived the long slumber better than their fellows.  but that back arch is still bugging me.


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Post  Matthew G on Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:48 pm

When I am dealing with metal colors I like to throw a layer of Sepia (or whatever the GW new Sepia wash is) wash and then a nuln oil wash right over that before the Sepia can dry. I find it darkens up the metal nicely as well as give it that time-worn appearance.

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Post  dusktiger on Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:44 pm

the flash washed out the photos, but you still get the idea of what's blue and whats gun metal in the following.  here's my scheme for deathmarks, lychguard, and warriors:



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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:27 pm

needs nuln oil... its like sunblock, only bettah.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:35 pm

I agree, a wash + highlights would really make them pop.

I wash and highlight my red too. Looks nice and shiny, but not too monochromatic, and it's super easy to do.

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Post  Paz on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:02 am

The trick about metals is that metals neeeeed shadows, or you get this toy-chrome effect. You don't have to go all NNM on that mother, but like the guys said, a dark wash followed by highlights is simple and effective way to get your metals looking realistic.
For your color scheme, I would mix nuln (black) wash with a blue wash. Your base shadows shouldn't be warm, but cold, since that's the effect you seem to be going for.

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Post  dusktiger on Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:28 am

eventually; i'm doing a different style of batch assembly line painting than usual.  starting with purely the base colors and going across the whole army with each one so i'm not cleaning brushes and swapping paints as often.  also means they look nicer as i playtest them to decide what units i like most.

when i get to the point of washing, how would you suggest i do the mix of black and blue washes paz?  like, actually mix them and then put them on? or a black then a blue layer, or a blue then black layer?

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Post  Paz on Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:09 am

Depends how dark you want your shadows to be. I would personally just mix em, for a single layer.

With the advent of gw washes (ppl have been mixing their own for quite a while, it's pretty easy to make em) some people can go overboard with washes, just slapping em on. Id stick to a single layer, maybe even a second, of pure blue wash watered down a bit.
Make sure to go back after and bring out edges as well, if you want to do simple edge highlighting, or just along areas of light, if you want something a bit more realistic.

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Post  dusktiger on Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:07 am

i dont have this metal in a paint pot yet so i cant highlight, but here's a test warrior with nightshade washed onto it.  i daubed the tip of a detail brush with it and focused on all the cracks, then i did a thin coat across the bare metal areas.



the blue wash was a nice tip; that's exactly what i was going for.

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Post  Matthew G on Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:44 am

I love washes. Simple yet Satisfying.
I like how you have an unwashed one beside the washed one just to make the comparison, really shows the difference.
They look nice.

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Post  Roland on Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:49 am

Is that Plate Mail or Gunmetal for the basecoat?

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Post  dusktiger on Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:46 am

Gun metal. Need to buy some brush on so I can do touchups

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Post  dusktiger on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:21 pm

here's the base style i'm going to use for the army:

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Post  Paz on Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:38 am

Much much better with the wash.

Even if you don't have exactly the same color in a pot, you just need a slightly brighter variation of that color to highlight with. Metallics are pretty easy that way.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:29 am

old GW chainmail works good for highlights over Boltgun metal. its lighter so it tends to bring out the details. not sure what they call it now, my pot is like 10 years old.

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Post  dusktiger on Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:38 am

Yea, I bought some Vallejo metallics a while back but hate them so I still gotta buy new metallics.

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