Hunters of the Warp Tournament circuit
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Hunters of the Warp Tournament circuit
So I was playing around thinking about what kinda tourney or event to do next.... and when I got all the ones I'd like to run on paper, it was 10. By dividing up the std tourneys so their were 4 of them, you end up with 13 events, one every 4 weeks.
This would still be in the "rough" phase. That said 9/13 have either been run before, or I have full setup available.
Here's what I'm thinking. Some of us get together and hash out some ideas for who can run these and if the dates work (I haven't checked them for holidays and the like yet). I think the most any one person could coordinate a year is maybe 4 events. If I could get 2-3 others to run some events and maybe 3-4 who could backup/assist I think this is doable. It'd also have a built in pool for playtesting, brainstorming, etc.
I'm not sold 100% on any or all of the events, I'm just saying if I can come up with this I know a group of us could do better. If you decided to run the Escalation tourney and have an idea for how to do BP or different mission or whatnot, go for it! Thats the fun part of running these.
FYI: The ones I'd want to run would be the Team tourney, battleforce recon, a standard one, and then likely pick one.
If anyones interested in joining in on this, drop a line here, and maybe meet up at BP's on Friday for beers and to hash out some ideas?
Hunters of the Warp Tournament circuit
Tournament types
• 2000/1750/1500 pt Standard Tourney- stardard FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Doubles Tourney- Teams of 2 players, each with a 750 point force play. Modified FOC, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Team Tourney- Teams of 4 players, each with a 750 point force play. Players play in pair, with each of their teammates once. Modified FOC, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Battleforce Recon- The Rules of Engagement- 1000 pt forces, custom (random) missions. Players must supply 2 Obj on a 60mm base. 4 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Escalation- stardard FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, 1st round is 1000, 2nd is 1500, 3rd is 2000. determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Kill Team- 200pt forces, 6 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• ‘Ard Boyz- 2500 pts, No FW, determined by Battle Points only.
• Gladiator- 2000 pts, 3 rounds, FW, Superheavys and Gargantuan Creatures allowed. determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Zone Mortalis- custom FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting. All missions are Zone Mortalis (close quarters) missions.
• City Fight- standard FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting. All missions are Cities of Death missions.
Schedule
• July 20th- Doubles
• Aug 24th- Zone Mortalis?
• Sept 21 or 22nd- Toon Con (2000 pt std)
• Oct 18th- Gladiator?
• Nov 15th- Kill-Team?
• Dec 13th- 1750 Std
• Jan 11th- Team Tourney?
• Feb 8th- City Fight?
• Mar 8th- 1500 Std
• Apr 5th- ‘Ard Boyz?
• May 3rd- Battleforce Recon- The Rules of Engagement?
• May 31st- Escalation?
• Jun 28TH 1750 Std
SCHEDULE REPEATS
This would still be in the "rough" phase. That said 9/13 have either been run before, or I have full setup available.
Here's what I'm thinking. Some of us get together and hash out some ideas for who can run these and if the dates work (I haven't checked them for holidays and the like yet). I think the most any one person could coordinate a year is maybe 4 events. If I could get 2-3 others to run some events and maybe 3-4 who could backup/assist I think this is doable. It'd also have a built in pool for playtesting, brainstorming, etc.
I'm not sold 100% on any or all of the events, I'm just saying if I can come up with this I know a group of us could do better. If you decided to run the Escalation tourney and have an idea for how to do BP or different mission or whatnot, go for it! Thats the fun part of running these.
FYI: The ones I'd want to run would be the Team tourney, battleforce recon, a standard one, and then likely pick one.
If anyones interested in joining in on this, drop a line here, and maybe meet up at BP's on Friday for beers and to hash out some ideas?
Hunters of the Warp Tournament circuit
Tournament types
• 2000/1750/1500 pt Standard Tourney- stardard FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Doubles Tourney- Teams of 2 players, each with a 750 point force play. Modified FOC, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Team Tourney- Teams of 4 players, each with a 750 point force play. Players play in pair, with each of their teammates once. Modified FOC, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Battleforce Recon- The Rules of Engagement- 1000 pt forces, custom (random) missions. Players must supply 2 Obj on a 60mm base. 4 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Escalation- stardard FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, 1st round is 1000, 2nd is 1500, 3rd is 2000. determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Kill Team- 200pt forces, 6 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• ‘Ard Boyz- 2500 pts, No FW, determined by Battle Points only.
• Gladiator- 2000 pts, 3 rounds, FW, Superheavys and Gargantuan Creatures allowed. determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting.
• Zone Mortalis- custom FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting. All missions are Zone Mortalis (close quarters) missions.
• City Fight- standard FOC, to the point limit, 3 rounds, determined by Battle points/Sportsmanship/Painting. All missions are Cities of Death missions.
Schedule
• July 20th- Doubles
• Aug 24th- Zone Mortalis?
• Sept 21 or 22nd- Toon Con (2000 pt std)
• Oct 18th- Gladiator?
• Nov 15th- Kill-Team?
• Dec 13th- 1750 Std
• Jan 11th- Team Tourney?
• Feb 8th- City Fight?
• Mar 8th- 1500 Std
• Apr 5th- ‘Ard Boyz?
• May 3rd- Battleforce Recon- The Rules of Engagement?
• May 31st- Escalation?
• Jun 28TH 1750 Std
SCHEDULE REPEATS
Roland- Lord of Titan
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This would be awesome. I would gladly throw my name in the hat to at least help. I don't know how well I would do at running an event. The only time I probably would not be able to participate is during the spring. With how crazy my work schedule gets I cannot afford to do much then.
If you guys got together during a time where I could make it to the city I would gladly help out with ideas and whatnot
If you guys got together during a time where I could make it to the city I would gladly help out with ideas and whatnot
Aegwymourn- Lord of Titan
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I think there is definitely enough of a player base in and around Saskatoon to create monthly events. Mark's last tournament was overflowing with 40k players, and I recall hearing something like the Den having sold 50-60 copies of the Big Rule Book V6 the week it came out.
I also would be happy to offer my time towards organizing and running events. Anytime away from December and May exam periods should work for me.
I also would be happy to offer my time towards organizing and running events. Anytime away from December and May exam periods should work for me.
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I could run whatever.
I talked to Darren on Saturday, he'd sponsor a plaque for us. Each event can be worth so many "points" for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, then league champ could be worth so many points too (and runner up?), then the highest point total over the cycle gets their name engraved on the plaque (courtesy of Darren).
Much better than 2nd place prize at the last tourney, right Trevor?
Edit: I like the non-standard ideas, but I'd be in favour of dropping one of those for a four round 1000 point event. Edit 2: Like Battleforce Recon, but more standard.
I talked to Darren on Saturday, he'd sponsor a plaque for us. Each event can be worth so many "points" for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, then league champ could be worth so many points too (and runner up?), then the highest point total over the cycle gets their name engraved on the plaque (courtesy of Darren).
Much better than 2nd place prize at the last tourney, right Trevor?
Edit: I like the non-standard ideas, but I'd be in favour of dropping one of those for a four round 1000 point event. Edit 2: Like Battleforce Recon, but more standard.
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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I'm down for that. Several of the nonstd ones we could drop and bring in as needed.
Roland- Lord of Titan
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I would love to participate in the Kill Team, Gladiator, ZM, and City Fight ones. I would probably be able to help set up/run/learn about running for the others.
Planes- Lord of Titan
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Bring it on! Im game.
Deadlytoaster- Inquisitor
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well you know i'm down for running zone mortalis, as i've been trying to hash out an easy way to make enough boards for a tournament to happen.so far i've come up with and tossed out 3 or 4 versions of ZM boards simply because of the price or the amount of construction involved to make the boards. my MK5 board idea is the simplist and easiest idea so far, but it'll take a small investment of money to do still. (4 sheets of foamboard per table, and then using full-page label sheets to print deckplates to sticker onto the FB to make the hallways and rooms.)
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I like this idea. with my busy schedule I am usually booked 6 months in advance and knowing dates etc would help me to be able to attend events on a more regular basis.
Selik- Crusader
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I could run an event or at least help but I am not sure if I could commit to 4 in a year. I find it hard enough to play in even 2 a year.
How about Tim's highlander one that he ran last year? That was good fun.
How about Tim's highlander one that he ran last year? That was good fun.
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tom (aeg), adam, mike and I were able to get together and go over a lot.
the four of us and mark will split the tourneys up, i'll edit the schedule and the tourney organizer will be listed as well.
were gonna have a google drive so we all have access to scoresheets, missions, etc
were going to set up e-registration for tourneys. fees would be collected day of.
we'd have a yearly champ. 0-10 points for best overall at a tourney. 0-30, for making playoffs in a league. up to 250/year. we could also use these points to seed tourneys.
still have to run this by darren, but looking good. ill try to get in touch with him the next few days.
the four of us and mark will split the tourneys up, i'll edit the schedule and the tourney organizer will be listed as well.
were gonna have a google drive so we all have access to scoresheets, missions, etc
were going to set up e-registration for tourneys. fees would be collected day of.
we'd have a yearly champ. 0-10 points for best overall at a tourney. 0-30, for making playoffs in a league. up to 250/year. we could also use these points to seed tourneys.
still have to run this by darren, but looking good. ill try to get in touch with him the next few days.
Roland- Lord of Titan
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Sounds great.
Termagant- Grandmaster
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Yeah i'm definitely down for this. I like the sounds of this system. Keep us posted on what Darren says.
Deadlytoaster- Inquisitor
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Sounds like a tremendous plan Beau.
let me know if i can do anything to help.
I'm with Selik too on the dates thing, if we can get a year scheduled? i'de be able to attend just about every event.
let me know if i can do anything to help.
I'm with Selik too on the dates thing, if we can get a year scheduled? i'de be able to attend just about every event.
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Revised schedule
Schedule
· July 20th- Doubles- Beau S.
· Aug 24th- Zone Mortalis- Mike S.
· Sept 21nd- Toon Con (2000 pt std)- Beau S.
· Oct 19th- Gladiator- Adam W.
· Nov 16th- Kill-Team- Mike S.
· Dec 14th- 1750 Std- Tom M.
· Jan 11th- Team Tourney- Beau S.
· Feb 8th- City Fight- Robyn M.
· Mar 8th- 1500 Std- Tom M.
· Apr 5th- ‘Ard Boyz- Mark H.
· May 3rd- Lord of the Warp- Beau
· May 31st- Escalation- Adam W.
· Jun 28TH 1750 Std- Mark H.
The dates may be off, if they are it's actually the nearest Sat.
I've brought this up with a few people, and I know I've talked about this on the forum. I want to do a large (40+) tourney. I think I have the basic setup done.
3 games/1750 or 2000 pts. I think 1750 would have more finished games.
Prize support
1st overall-$4.50/entry
2nd Overall-$3.00/entry
3rd overall- $1.50/entry
secondary prizes (best general, best painted, favorite oppenent)
1st- $3.00/entry
2nd- $2.00/entry
3rd- $1.00/entry
Works out to $25 of your entry fee goes to prize support. @ 40 entries, $1000 in prize support, $225 to 1st overall. This assumes NO additional support.
I want to do something like a swag bag with maybe $30 in goodies for each person (dice, templates, t-shirt, or the like). I'm not a fan of a $40 entry fee, and all most ppl have nothing to show for it. This could be scaled as needed. I was thinking of the GF9 Multi template and/or the TAC template, or something along those lines.
I'm looking at a few different sites, mainly a civic center. Renting the combatives room @ cosmo is (I think) $25/hr, with about 12 hrs needed. $300. +$7.50 person.
lunch provided +$5.00 person
incidental overhead $100 for stuff I haven't thought off. +$2.50
$70 entry, but I think you get alot.
This is were it gets complicated. the Combative room is 2150 sq feet. You need about 100 sq ft for a table. Room for 20 tables, 40 slots.
If we need more slots (due to demand), we'd have to go to the gym ($40.70/hr, ~$500). The gym is 7000 sq ft, room for 70 tables. We'd break even at 60 slots/30 tables. A bigger concern is as best I can figure we can wrangle up about 20 tables and 20 tables worth of terrain. Any additional slots would require additional tables in some way or the other.
I'm waiting on confirmation of prices from Cosmo, I expect most of the other locations to be similar in price.
I'm thinking of contacting the Ravening Hordes (fantasy), as well as the Warmachine/Hordes and Flames of War groups about either running along side us (provided we can get tables) or making it a 2 day event.
Tables: Several folks have said we could use their tables and/or terrain. The plan Rob and I came up with is to keep it simple. You lend a table and terrain, they stay together. Simply put the terrain in a box with your name, and make sure your table is similarly labeled. We'll have someone collect them or create a central drop point for them, and simply reverse the process to return them.
For any additional tables we need, does anyone WANT an semi-portable table (4x8, folding legs), as I believe we can make them at a cost of ~$40. As simple as "buy a table, pick it up after the tourney?"
Not sure about the additional terrain we'd need, unless we had some terrain making workshops or the like.
Any comments, concerns, feedback would be appreciated.
FYI: Dan asked a contact in Brandon, and they have about 10 ppl that would come up for something like this.
Schedule
· July 20th- Doubles- Beau S.
· Aug 24th- Zone Mortalis- Mike S.
· Sept 21nd- Toon Con (2000 pt std)- Beau S.
· Oct 19th- Gladiator- Adam W.
· Nov 16th- Kill-Team- Mike S.
· Dec 14th- 1750 Std- Tom M.
· Jan 11th- Team Tourney- Beau S.
· Feb 8th- City Fight- Robyn M.
· Mar 8th- 1500 Std- Tom M.
· Apr 5th- ‘Ard Boyz- Mark H.
· May 3rd- Lord of the Warp- Beau
· May 31st- Escalation- Adam W.
· Jun 28TH 1750 Std- Mark H.
The dates may be off, if they are it's actually the nearest Sat.
I've brought this up with a few people, and I know I've talked about this on the forum. I want to do a large (40+) tourney. I think I have the basic setup done.
3 games/1750 or 2000 pts. I think 1750 would have more finished games.
Prize support
1st overall-$4.50/entry
2nd Overall-$3.00/entry
3rd overall- $1.50/entry
secondary prizes (best general, best painted, favorite oppenent)
1st- $3.00/entry
2nd- $2.00/entry
3rd- $1.00/entry
Works out to $25 of your entry fee goes to prize support. @ 40 entries, $1000 in prize support, $225 to 1st overall. This assumes NO additional support.
I want to do something like a swag bag with maybe $30 in goodies for each person (dice, templates, t-shirt, or the like). I'm not a fan of a $40 entry fee, and all most ppl have nothing to show for it. This could be scaled as needed. I was thinking of the GF9 Multi template and/or the TAC template, or something along those lines.
I'm looking at a few different sites, mainly a civic center. Renting the combatives room @ cosmo is (I think) $25/hr, with about 12 hrs needed. $300. +$7.50 person.
lunch provided +$5.00 person
incidental overhead $100 for stuff I haven't thought off. +$2.50
$70 entry, but I think you get alot.
This is were it gets complicated. the Combative room is 2150 sq feet. You need about 100 sq ft for a table. Room for 20 tables, 40 slots.
If we need more slots (due to demand), we'd have to go to the gym ($40.70/hr, ~$500). The gym is 7000 sq ft, room for 70 tables. We'd break even at 60 slots/30 tables. A bigger concern is as best I can figure we can wrangle up about 20 tables and 20 tables worth of terrain. Any additional slots would require additional tables in some way or the other.
I'm waiting on confirmation of prices from Cosmo, I expect most of the other locations to be similar in price.
I'm thinking of contacting the Ravening Hordes (fantasy), as well as the Warmachine/Hordes and Flames of War groups about either running along side us (provided we can get tables) or making it a 2 day event.
Tables: Several folks have said we could use their tables and/or terrain. The plan Rob and I came up with is to keep it simple. You lend a table and terrain, they stay together. Simply put the terrain in a box with your name, and make sure your table is similarly labeled. We'll have someone collect them or create a central drop point for them, and simply reverse the process to return them.
For any additional tables we need, does anyone WANT an semi-portable table (4x8, folding legs), as I believe we can make them at a cost of ~$40. As simple as "buy a table, pick it up after the tourney?"
Not sure about the additional terrain we'd need, unless we had some terrain making workshops or the like.
Any comments, concerns, feedback would be appreciated.
FYI: Dan asked a contact in Brandon, and they have about 10 ppl that would come up for something like this.
Roland- Lord of Titan
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I would gladly support the $40+ buy a table pick it up after the event fund. Would go a step further and fund additional terrain and whatnot. I hardly have enough time to paint dudesmen let alone terrain/table
I would certainly be all over this as long as I could get the time off work.
I would certainly be all over this as long as I could get the time off work.
Aegwymourn- Lord of Titan
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One thing they did at Astronomicon that I think was kinda nifty.
They had "Best Terrain" voting. So people entered their own tables of terrain (either they supplied a table or didn't), then attendee's walked around and each voted for their favorite.
You'd probably want the room either slightly before or something to setup tables and such.
They had "Best Terrain" voting. So people entered their own tables of terrain (either they supplied a table or didn't), then attendee's walked around and each voted for their favorite.
You'd probably want the room either slightly before or something to setup tables and such.
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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lets brainstorm some more sites.
I'll do some digging on hotels. sometimes renting a banquet hall is actually fairly economical, and they can supply tables where you can just lay sheets marked out in 4x8 sections with Tape over.
if we have people from out of town making the trip, it might be better to have accommodations close by, as well as perhaps... a lounge.
Best Western on Idylwyld comes to mind, its not an upscale place really, but it has a few rooms that would accommodate that number of players and it hopefully would come for a reasonable price. parking is free and if out of town-ers wanted to shack up there for the night, you can usually negotiate a better rate with the banquet room rental.
As far as prize support, I'm coming around to Robyns statement after astro when i was whining that there was only trophies given as prizes, after reflection and a look at my pile of unpainted/unopened kits.... I'm not super worried about "winning" anything great, more about the bragging rights than anything its always nice to walk away with something substantial though. i guess what I'm saying is that if more of the entry fee has to go to the venue, i doubt too many people would be super upset at $150 to best overall.
I'll do some digging on hotels. sometimes renting a banquet hall is actually fairly economical, and they can supply tables where you can just lay sheets marked out in 4x8 sections with Tape over.
if we have people from out of town making the trip, it might be better to have accommodations close by, as well as perhaps... a lounge.
Best Western on Idylwyld comes to mind, its not an upscale place really, but it has a few rooms that would accommodate that number of players and it hopefully would come for a reasonable price. parking is free and if out of town-ers wanted to shack up there for the night, you can usually negotiate a better rate with the banquet room rental.
As far as prize support, I'm coming around to Robyns statement after astro when i was whining that there was only trophies given as prizes, after reflection and a look at my pile of unpainted/unopened kits.... I'm not super worried about "winning" anything great, more about the bragging rights than anything its always nice to walk away with something substantial though. i guess what I'm saying is that if more of the entry fee has to go to the venue, i doubt too many people would be super upset at $150 to best overall.
Rhaevyn- Lord of Titan
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Small-Town hall where we can put wooden tables back-back. Then get a special liquor permit and sell beer at just over cost. (Gotta guarantee no minors though)
Aberdeen/Warman/Osler/Martainsville...
Aberdeen/Warman/Osler/Martainsville...
Lore Weaver- Lord of Titan
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Thanks, I know Robyn is checking a few places as well. I'm also going to look into a second day as well.
Any ideas on places to advertise in Edmonton, Calgary, and/or Winnipeg?
Any ideas for additional terrain? Battlefield in a box, in a bigger box is what im thinking, but a full table is in the neighborhood of $200. Amera has some cheap terrain, but we'd have to have a paint/assembly group, or something similar.
Any ideas on places to advertise in Edmonton, Calgary, and/or Winnipeg?
Any ideas for additional terrain? Battlefield in a box, in a bigger box is what im thinking, but a full table is in the neighborhood of $200. Amera has some cheap terrain, but we'd have to have a paint/assembly group, or something similar.
Roland- Lord of Titan
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I'd be down to help paint and assemble if supplied with the hardware.
Planes- Lord of Titan
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What's up with kill teams? Haven't seen anything about it and it is just a month away.
superdeuxlol- Assassin
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Stelmach was supposed to run it, but has had to back out. Do i have a volunteer?
Roland- Lord of Titan
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If it is on a Saturday, I could probably swing it. Can someone direct me to some rules information on the format so I can start work on missions and such?
Planes- Lord of Titan
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Send me your email, and I'll hook you up tonight.
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