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1750 points of Daemons

Post  Lore Weaver on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:36 am

HQ---

1. Lord of Change 230
Lvl 3 25, Grimoire of True Names 30
= 285

2i) Herald of Tzeentch 45
Lvl 3 50
Locus of Conjuration 25
2ii) Herald of Tzeentch 45
Lvl 3 50
Locus of Conjuration 25 (+1 S on Psychic Powers, goes with the 20 pink horrors)

= 240

= 525

Troops---

1. 20xPink Horrors = 180
2. 20xPink Horrors = 180
3. 10xPink Horrors = 90
4. 10xPink Horrors = 90

= 540

Fast Attack---

1. 9xScreamers = 225

Heavy Support ---

1. Burning Chariot = 100
2. Burning Chariot = 100
3. Daemon Prince of Tzeentch = 160
Wings 40, Armour 20, Exalted Reward 30, Lesser Reward 10
= 260
= 460

EDIT: I'd be tempted to take the D3 blue horror locus on the heralds instead of +1S shooting... 'cause then I can snag a greater reward for the Lord of Change, which can get him 3+ armour, S8 AP1 18" assault 1 lance (take that fliers!), 4+ FNP, re-roll invuls, or +1 Wound and It will not Die) || Grimoire of True Names just speaks to me though. It says "Mark" for 30 points. (Pick a unit with Daemons in it. If enemy, -1 to their invul saves, if friendly, +2 to their invul saves on a 3+, -1 on a 1-2 || 2++ Oblits or Mutilators? Yes Please).


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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Lore Weaver on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:38 am

Cost comes in at ~$550. ( A full $200 cheaper than the average 1750 pt army)

2 Burning Chariots (with which you can build the heralds)
Lord of Change, Daemon Prince
6 boxes of pink horrors
3 boxes of Screamers

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Lore Weaver on Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:39 pm

More Theory Listing ---

1500 is the 2nd HQ choice only... everything else stays the same. Basically, one herald per squad (potentially stack them if I want a squad with high strength shooting.
The herald on the Chariot motors around and does stuff, he's an HQ. He likely rolls on the Tzeentch List, granting himself the 2D6 S5 AP4 shooting from his chariot. He could land the 18" S8 AP1 Lance from greater rewards though (I'd be happy with almost any roll on that chart). He also snags the Staff on the Lesser reward chart. Giving him S5 in close combat so he can charge weaker units and do chariot sweeps at S5 AP4 explosion instead of S3 lamesauce. (have to double check wording on the explosion).

Chariots... Might Deepstrike them so they can alpha strike things. At 10/10/10 Open-topped, they're a bit squishy. I want to make sure I get to enjoy that torrent flamer and/or D3 lascannon shots at least once with each.

I'd likely deploy all 60 Daemons at the start. So many Daemons.

Still only costs ~$500 to buy this army, from scratch.

HQ----

1. 250 point something or other? Walking Tzeentch DP with Armour? Rolls on Biomancy or Takes Rewards?

2. Heralds
i) Herald of Tzeentch 45 (95)
Lvl 2 25, Locus of Conjuration 25
ii) Herald of Tzeentch 45 (95)
Lvl 2 25, Locus of Conjuration 25
iii) Herald of Tzeentch 45 (95)
Lvl 2 25, Locus of Conjuration 25
iv) Herald of Tzeentch 45 (150)
Chariot 50, Greater Reward 20, Lesser Reward 10, Lvl 2 25
= 435

Troops---

1. 20xPink Horrors = 180
2. 20xPink Horrors = 180
3. 20xPink Horrors = 180

Troops = 540

Fast Attack---

1. 9xScreamers = 225
Fast Attack = 225

Heavy---

1. Burning Chariot 100
2. Burning Chariot 100
3. Burning Chariot 100
Heavy = 300

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:24 am

Moar Listing...

1750 Chaos Daemons---

I might build this!

HQ---

1. Lord of Change 230
Lesser Reward 10, Greater Rewardx2 40, Lvl 3 25
= 305

2.
i) Herald of Tzeentch 45
Lvl 3 50, Locus of Conjuration 25
= 120
ii) Herald of Tzeentch 45
Lvl 3 50, Locus of Conjuration 25
= 120
iii) Changeling 75 (Paz's?)
= 315

HQ = 620

Troops---

1. 20xPink Horrors = 180
2. 20xPink Horrors = 180
3. 20xPink Horrors = 180

Troops = 540

Fast Attack---

1. 9xScreamers = 225

Heavy Support---

1. Burning Chariot 100
2. Burning Chariot 100
3. Soulgrinder 135
Tzeentch 5, Baleful Torrent 20 = 160
= 360

Total = 1745

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Daemonkin on Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:11 pm

I was hoping they would bring back the pink horror turns into 2 blue horrors when killed rule

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:38 pm

Daemonkin wrote:I was hoping they would bring back the pink horror turns into 2 blue horrors when killed rule

Me too. So far I've been forgetting my blue horror tokens. Those are S2 Hits! NEVER FORGET!

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:09 pm

The guy who makes an app/flowchart for playing daemons is going to make a fortune.

shooting phase -> roll for warpstorm -> if/then if /then if/then if /then. xyz units have xyz spells, if/then if/then if/then.

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Paz on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:04 pm

That is some nice shooting!

Word of advice, 2 games in, and I've failed more than 50% grimoire rolls.
I would use it only in conjunction with some other protective power, like invisibility or forboding, otherwise your daemon unit can be left in quite a jam with a 6+ save...

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Re: 1750 points of Daemons

Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:59 pm

Paz wrote:That is some nice shooting!

Word of advice, 2 games in, and I've failed more than 50% grimoire rolls.
I would use it only in conjunction with some other protective power, like invisibility or forboding, otherwise your daemon unit can be left in quite a jam with a 6+ save...

I've been mixed with it as well. I think in most games, I'll be quite happy with a Portal Glyph giving me extra daemons. Thiessen and I are working on a bead-craft portal glyph as we speak! (if it works once, it's worth the points... might even use it in a kill points mission anyway, just not on turn 1 o_O).

I used the Grimoire on Mutilators and got the 2++ save. They hosed a unit of Purifiers. (daemon hammer... I care not!)

I've used it on the Mutilators and dropped them back to a stock 5++.

I dropped my horrors to 6++ (that was a sad time for them... they all died).

I buffed my Forgefiend to a 3++, encouraging my opponent to shoot at other things.

The nice thing is, you pay 30pts and you get to pick your reward after you know the mission and your opponent. I might always take the Grimoire if my opponent is fielding Daemons. Dropping Nurgle Marked Oblits to 6++ before dropping some AP2 shooting on them might make someone a sad panda, or dropping a Heldrake to 6++ before unloading some shots on it.


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