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Post  Lore Weaver on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 pm

Looks like the horrible looking Plague Fly Rider guys are interesting.

Jet Pack Calvary is their unit type, which would mean 12" of movement, ignoring terrain, with fleet on the charge. They have shrouding...

This gave me the epiphany that Phil Kelly may have written the Chaos book to work with the Daemon book. Shrouding is kinda pointless on a unit with a 5++ save and no jink save, but you can join a Lord of Nurgle on a Bike to this unit and suddenly he's got a 3+ save when he doesn't turbo-boost. (2+ if he does)

This is.... interesting. I wonder what other kinds of synnergy will be available. I like the concept of supplementing my Chaos with a Herald of Tzeentch on a Chariot and some Horrors (assuming those things are good).

EDIT: I just realized... Jet Pack Calvary.... so 12" move -> D6" run -> 2D6" move in the assault phase... you're assaulting on Turn 2 with these things, and they're T5... Why are the models so fugly.



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Post  judchic on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:50 pm

IT'S NURGLE!

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Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:58 pm

good at killing monstrous creatures i suppose, assuming plagueswords are poisoned. not sure what is going to be afraid of 12 WS3/Str4/I2 attacks though. and in a fast attack slot. Perhaps these are meant to be escorts for heralds or bike lords as you say.

Its all going to depend on their pricing i suppose. to me they just look like expensive jet bike chaos spawn, only not as good.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 pm

Sounds like the Plaguesword is Poison (3+)

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Post  System Commander on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:15 pm

Im also still assuming fnp as a daemon of nurgle.

I dont know.. Im liking what i see here. I am a bit bummed about daemons losing.eternal warrior.. But.still, if points are.reasonable im a likimg what im seeing.

My spawn die super fast for some.reason.. Probaly because im reluctant to take any saves on my khorne lord.. I can fail that 3+ all day

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Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:09 pm

My spawn die too. But really that's all they are there for. 64points of ablative wounds for the khorne lord. wish i could give them nurgle mark instead of khorne. He doesn't really need the spawn attacks to win combat or anything.

I'm hoping the daemons book is completely different than it is now. this whole daemonic assault idea was horrible.

by the way... i might just have about 50 bloodletters, 20-30 plaugebearers, and some other daemons for sale once the book drops!

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Post  Lore Weaver on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:10 pm

Pink and Blue horrors?

I'm hoping they go back to the days when if you kill a pink horror, it splits into two blue horrors.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:50 pm

you would think that GW would jump on the opportunity to sell 3 models per 18 points

the idea of 3 wound scoring troops choices that are generally known for teleporting into position and shooting laser beems out of the unit just seems like a good thing to me.

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Post  System Commander on Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:00 pm

Ive got about 30 of each now.. BUT i wouldnt be opposed.to getting more. Being able to field an all bloodletter army holds.some morbid fascination for me.

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Post  System Commander on Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:05 pm

Ive been keeping.thwm naked for now.. But yeah.. I.would love for them to be able to.get tgh 6. Strangely enough.. Ive had quite a few die to str 10...even keeping them hidden in terrain.

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Post  superdeuxlol on Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:50 pm

I might be interested in them as well when the book drops.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:49 am

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/02/22/rumor-it-deamon-rules/

Tzeentch gets to roll on Divination for psychic powers.
Flamers are AP3 now? Potentially Torrent? (Might just be the chariot that's torrent??) (they needed a nerf, to be honest)

I just read the battle-report and it doesn't sound like Pink Horrors split into Blue Horrors (my bit of wishlisting is gone...) I could see supplimenting my Chaos Army with a Herald of Tzeentch on a Chariot, a unit of Pink Horrors, Flamers, Screamers, and a Burning Chariot.

The Chariot Kit is surprisingly affordable at $50? (maybe it's like Gas Prices where everyone's like ZOMG, it's 1.05 a litre, so cheap! Nevermind 8 years ago when people were protesting by standing naked in their truck boxes when gas prices were an exorbitant .89 a litre)

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Post  System Commander on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:58 am

Theres some debate on whether the chariot is ap3 or ap2. It just removed marines in the battle report so noones exactly sure yet.. But it would make sense if.it.was the same as the chaos book... Oh and torrent!

Divination sounds awesome.

Some neat things.. Some odd things.. Ill guess we'll see.

Skyfire soul grinders... Interesting

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:53 pm

I just also be interested in those bloodletters.

I would be very happy if they got the option to put armour back on. 3+/5++ bloodletters were so beastly.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:02 pm

some more stuff on Faet today

Blood thirster- has amazing stat line:
WS BS S T W A I LD SV
10 5 8 7 5 5 5 10 4+

Re- rolls all failed to hit and to wound.

Str 8 vector strikes. too bad they didn't cannibalize his BS a little more to up that initiative value.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:15 pm

Sounds like Pink Horror's are going to be 19 points per model, have the brotherhood of Psykers rule, and re-roll failed saves of 1.

I'm trying to get authority from Sara to purchase a Herald on a Chariot, Flamer on a Chariot, and two boxes of horrors (only one if they stink), but it might be a great nucleus to build a daemon army. (~$220ish w\ book)

It all depends on the tax return, apparently.


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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:39 pm

I'm not feeling it for some reason. even though daemons are the only battle brothers for my CSM, i keep defaulting back towards IG for my allies.

It might be cool if Heralds can join allied units with the new dex. and vice versa. 2 fearless heralds to add to CSM or cultists units shores up a lot of shortfalls. and having my Juggerlord join a unit of bloodcrushers just seems like the thing to do!

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Post  System Commander on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:55 pm

Things are really coming in hit and miss right now.

Of course the GD's boosts look awesome.. but other things are really ho hum right now.

Big news this weekend was they altered the daemons daemon prince to be tgh 4. Why they changed it.. No one knows but everyones really hoping it was a boo boo.. What would be the point to a tgh 4 daemon prince?

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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:09 pm

Think that is just a typo Robyn. its been that way for like 4 months. and the Website isnt exactly the last word on changes. they havent changed anything else, so i wouldnt cry foul just yet.

the big stupid thing is that they moved DP's to HQ. Just like the CSM dex, you have 18 different HQ choices and can only field 2.

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Post  ScottRadom on Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:39 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:Looks like the horrible looking Plague Fly Rider guys are interesting.

I Like 'em.! I'll be picking up a box for sure.

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Post  Planes on Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:46 pm

I like the flies. The riders, not so much.

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Post  Paz on Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:58 am

flys- meh
khorne chariot- needs to be converted, right now pretty lame. But with two juggernauts pushing...
-tzeentch chariot- not bad...
-heralds. Well... I scratch built all these already... humbug.

As a Daemons player since the codex first came out, I cant wait! Change! The warp storm rule from the wd battlereport sounds cool!

but... but how do I play 40k if I deploy normal now? Razz

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Post  System Commander on Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:28 am

Im sure it has to be a typo.. How horrible would that be.

I dont mind the flies.. Like paz i do think the chariots have potential. The slaneesh and tzeentch chariots are good.. I.hope the khorne one comes though with.some nice rules. The cannon seems a bit crappy unless its ornance or has some special rules. Str 8 large blast and ap4 is pretty bleh. Especially is this day of the hades gun and the psycannon.. Lots of high str shots.

Im surprised pictures of the codex havent started.to pop up.. 4 days from release now.


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Post  Rhaevyn on Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:43 am

The cannon could be good. All depends on the points cost. I'm hoping its relatively cost effective, it will be BS3 after all as well. i never sniff at str 8 guns though. Insta-gibbing MEQs is always fun, even if they get to roll saves. and everyone and thier dog runs autocannons now and they are only ap4.

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Post  System Commander on Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:19 am

3 Thats a good point.. If.its.cheap and even say you can take them in squads of three... Interesting indeed.

For whatever reason.. The rumours say the cannon is bs 5..

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