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Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:49 pm

I've converting a hellblade into a Heldrake because i dislike the dragon model.

is anyone going to winge about me putting both the hades autocannons And the Baleflamer on the model at the same time? i can magnetize the flamer and remove for those rare occaisions where one would field the Hades. The autocannons are much much harder to remove, however, as they are sort of built in to the model's "feet".

So when it hit the table, the model would show both weapons, but only be able to fire the Baleflamer.

I might mess around a little more so that its not an issue.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Roland on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:58 pm

I call shenanigans. How will my Dark Angels disguised as Ultramarines know which weapon is real?

WWhat, it has magnets? Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

PS I have many different magnets in about 4 different sizes that make magnetizing easy. You can't have them, because I'm using them.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:06 pm

hah. +1 Beau


Normally i would find a way. but i'm fairly certain i'll need to magnetize it to the flight stand as well, and i'm going to run into problems with too many fields intersecting if i put that powerful a magnet just behind the autocannon placement

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Roland on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:34 pm

Nah, I've seen Drew's, nice kit, but there is not a lot of space to work with. Your solution works for me (I'd doing the same for my chaos marines)

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  System Commander on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:36 pm

Wouldnt bother me at all.

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Post  da bear on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:45 pm

I object totally that's bullsh*t ......................na just kiding can't wait to see it lol

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Post  Planes on Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:15 pm

I think I'd be cool with the flamer coming on and off. After all, I set up my Triarch Stalker to have both the Heat Ray and Twin Linked Heavy Gauss Cannon on it at the same time, just a matter of which one is pointing forward when it gets fielded. Perhaps a similar solution would work for you. Fewer magnets involved, simple WYSIWYG, weapon destroyed results still handled easily enough.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:26 pm

I'll figure something out and post some pics once i have the weapons sorted

The model comes in fewer pieces than i would have imagined. the main plane is a huge chunk of resin.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  dusktiger on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:01 am

alot of their earlier work is made like that. honestly though, it makes the model better to work with because 1, it lets you make more robust flyer bases, and 2, you dont see resin warping as badly. from everyone i've talked to online that's made the new caestus assault ram, 'every' hull part is warped to some degree. it makes me worry a little how bad the storm eagle conversion kit will be, because i'd like to make one with the actual kit eventually.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:34 pm

should be a storm eagle kit arriving with the FW order. we'll see how bad it is.

so far the only warping with the hellblade is one of the reapers cannons leans a little to the left.... but who's cannon doesn't prefer to lean one way or the other just a little bit?

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Roland on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:38 pm

dusktiger wrote:alot of their earlier work is made like that. honestly though, it makes the model better to work with because 1, it lets you make more robust flyer bases, and 2, you dont see resin warping as badly. from everyone i've talked to online that's made the new caestus assault ram, 'every' hull part is warped to some degree. it makes me worry a little how bad the storm eagle conversion kit will be, because i'd like to make one with the actual kit eventually.

I was under the impression the bigger the piece the more warpage you have. I know on my GK dread torso (one huge chunk of resin) there is "smooshing" of the arm joins. I've noticed the same thing on rhino door, land raider assault ramps, etc. while never seeing it on smaller pieces such as shoulder pads and the like.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  System Commander on Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:49 pm

My big pieces always have something wonky happening somewhere

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  dusktiger on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:27 pm

Roland wrote:
I was under the impression the bigger the piece the more warpage you have. I know on my GK dread torso (one huge chunk of resin) there is "smooshing" of the arm joins. I've noticed the same thing on rhino door, land raider assault ramps, etc. while never seeing it on smaller pieces such as shoulder pads and the like.

the bigger and thinner the bit, the worse the warpage because they 'decant' the piece before it can properly cool and set in the molds. the caetus, like the thunderhawk's hull, is a hollow frame. but the hawk's wings are a good thick piece, so they dont tend to show warping. the storm eagle, is in effect, a conversion kit for a storm raven, based on how they made the bits. so its likely the reinforced sides, etc, will be bendy.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:38 pm

all weapons now flush mountable and removable so thread topic can change to conversion

Also figured out basing them. drilled a small hole in the bottom and set a flat head screw in there.
filled the cross hairs of the screw with fast drying epoxy and set a 10mm flat magnet on it. looks fairly natural, like its part of the landing gear. much better than the giant cross hairs on the bottom of the vendetta.

Darren says he ordered flying bases via mailorder. so it will be a few more days until they come in. When it arrives, i'll just give the top the same treatment, Inset screw, 10mm magnet. if it holds even half as secure as the one glued to the end of my pencil, I'll be happy.

will get some pics up soon.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:38 pm

The sisters.

Modified for thier new role as HelDrakes.



Round bump on the bottom are the mounting magnets. cant see them in this pic, but there are a trio of magnets near the front under the pilot that allow for weapon swaps.
there are a series of hooks and claws on the bottom as well. hard to see without contrast - along with the wing blades these should assist in Vectpr Strikes.



Baleflamer - with dragon head as a nod to its future... mutation.

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  da bear on Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:00 am

Ok those look more evil then drews lol 2 thumbs up dude

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:04 pm

Thanks bear. still heming and hawing on weather i should paint them up my standard bronze on black or go with a more colorful scheme for the airforce.

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Post  da bear on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:54 pm

Hum that's a tough one I'd say go colorful and make them a show piece

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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:10 pm

Almost done the first one. taking forever


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Re: Hellblade/Heldrake conversion

Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:55 pm

Not really relevant to the post but here's a couple more WIP pieces. Sabre Lascannon Turrets.

An yes i find a little irony in re-purposing peace symbols into war platforms Smile




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