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Post  Aegwymourn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:14 am

Q: How do I determine the Arc of Sight for a Heldrake’s ranged
weapon? (p52)
A: Treat the Heldrake’s ranged weapon as a Turret Mounted
Weapon, measuring all ranges from the edge of the Heldrake’s
base nearest to the target unit.

Ouch! No longer can one hide from the fury of Heldrakes apparently.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:04 am

faqs updated it appears eh?

important ones i guess

Q: Can a Flyer or Flying Monstrous Creature Leave Combat
Airspace on the same turn that it entered play from
Reserves/Ongoing Reserves? (p49/81)
A: No – the owning player must deploy and move their Flyer
or Flying Monstrous Creature in such a way that this does
not happen.


Q: Can the rider of a Chariot that is also a Skimmer make Sweep
Attacks against Zooming Flyers or Swooping Flying Monstrous
Creatures? (p82).
A: No.
Q: If a Chariot is in combat with an enemy unit, can models from
that unit direct attacks against the chariot itself? (p82)
A: Yes.
Q: If a Chariot is Wrecked or suffers an Explodes! result in close
combat, does the rider remain locked in combat with the unit they
were fighting? (p82)
A: No, they perform an Emergency Disembarkation.


CHAOS
.. time to dust off those noise marines for sure now.
5 noise marines? 1 blastmaster. 10 noise marines? 2 blast masters. fo sho.

Page 99 – Noise Marines, Options.
Change the third bullet point to “One Noise Marine may
replace his boltgun with a blastmaster at 30 pts/model. If the
squad numbers ten or more models, an additional Noise
Marine may replace his boltgun with a blastmaster at 30
pts/model..”


yay abbadon isnt lonely anymore!

Q: Does Abaddon the Despoiler’s Mark of Chaos Ascendant prevent
him from joining friendly units chosen from Codex: Chaos Space
Marines that have a Mark of Chaos ? (p57)
A: No.


... Kharne now never... ever misses.

Q: If Khârn the Betrayer rolls a 1 To Hit in close combat and
subsequently re-rolls this roll of a 1 due to his Hatred Incarnate
Warlord Trait, does the original roll of a 1 still count for the
purposes of inflicting hits on friendly models due to The Betrayer
special rule?
A: No.





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Post  System Commander on Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:16 am

Awesome. The Heldrake one is massive. The biggest problem i have with the Heldrake.is figurong out how to vector strike then burn something else. This will make it much easier.

That is nice noise marines can take a BM at 5.




Hehe.. BM at five

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:31 am

when i read that... i started scrolling down hoping that CSM sqauds were going to get the same treatment as DA tacticals and get 1 special or heavy per 5 too. .. but it never happened. and then i had some coffee and woke up from my dream.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:05 am

So Now, if you charge a Necron Chariot, do you hit rear armor, and then if he is surrounded, and you glance it down, does the necron Lord die to placement issues?

Also, Great for Kharn AND Noise Marines!!!

Those are probably my fave units in the new Dex

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Post  System Commander on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 am

All the reviews ive read about the Dark Angel codex takes.a small point to mention how dissapointing.it makes.the Chaos codex look.

There are so many simple things that could be done to make it so much funner. Chaos lords with terminator armour or jimp packs unlocking units of terms and raptors as.troops (or even just one like the warboss).

Thats actually my biggest beef right now after a chunk of.games.. Scoring options. Ive been taking a nurgle and khorne lord and a unit of berseekers and plague.marines in landraiders. Berserkers seem scary mounted in a landraider with a big.charge zone, but they let me down every game. The assault is either sub par or they just die quickly to shooting after the assaults done.

Plague marines are great, cultists are awesome for their 50 points, landraiders (2 of em) usually have one making.itmto the end and after my games have found they serve well as anti air. The star of course is the jeldrake. Cant say enough good stiff about it. Ive been tempted.to.get another because.of.how great they are.. But uve also been tempted.to.go the similar route of mkke and up a vendetta.

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Post  System Commander on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:13 am

Grumble, grumble, whine, whine.

I think i need a new army. I have grey knights.. Which i dont enjoy playing. I have chaos, which i love and while the new book was dissapointing overall, i dont mind the changes but.its.getting.boring.fast.

Ive got imperial guard but its.ramshackle.and all over the place. That leaves me with daemons right now.. Which i do enjoy.playing for the bizarreness.. But im wondering if its time to refocus onto guard.

Ive been so lazy.lately though modelling/paint wise.. I just want to play with my.old stuff. Smile

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:15 am

I'm going the opposite way, i have the vendetta and i'm getting Drakes. (well, i'm getting hell talons and i'm going to put an underslung Flamer and Scythe blade on them. hah.) with some magnets i'll be able to field them as talons if i want some flying reapers at any time.

I'm stoked about the noise marine change... except that i have to paint/field noise marines... all mine are from 3rd edition, so metal hell. the 124/129 point 5 man blast master squad is pretty cool.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:16 am

Eldar of some flavor Robin. that way you can buy two armies. the one you get now, and a new one when the codex comes out next November.

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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:26 am

I am looking forward to playing Guard/Chaos.

An infantry platoon will be my scoring solution to the chaos codex

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Post  Roland on Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:56 am

Rhaevyn wrote:Eldar of some flavor Robin. that way you can buy two armies. the one you get now, and a new one when the codex comes out next November.

This will happen when Shania Twain shows up on my doorstep in nothing but a fur coat with a letter from my wife that says "Have fun..."

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Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:15 pm

Rhaevyn wrote:I'm going the opposite way, i have the vendetta and i'm getting Drakes. (well, i'm getting hell talons and i'm going to put an underslung Flamer and Scythe blade on them. hah.) with some magnets i'll be able to field them as talons if i want some flying reapers at any time.

I'm stoked about the noise marine change... except that i have to paint/field noise marines... all mine are from 3rd edition, so metal hell. the 124/129 point 5 man blast master squad is pretty cool.

Stick 'em in a Rhino with a Havoc Missile Launcher. Kachow!

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Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:42 pm

canadin wrote:So Now, if you charge a Necron Chariot, do you hit rear armor, and then if he is surrounded, and you glance it down, does the necron Lord die to placement issues?

Q: If a Chariot is Wrecked or suffers an Explodes! result in close
combat, does the rider remain locked in combat with the unit they
were fighting? (p82)
A: No, they perform an Emergency Disembarkation.

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If, in an emergency disembarkation, a model can't be placed, it's removed from play. Ouch, don't die on your chariot.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:07 pm

Lore Weaver wrote:
Rhaevyn wrote:
I'm stoked about the noise marine change... except that i have to paint/field noise marines... all mine are from 3rd edition, so metal hell. the 124/129 point 5 man blast master squad is pretty cool.

Stick 'em in a Rhino with a Havoc Missile Launcher. Kachow!


hmm yes. 10 man unit maybe. save the tax from champ and rhino.

i find it funny that they FAQ'd the Noise champ to have a CCW. i imagine that anyone giving this guy a power weapon before today was a BIG CHEATER. because he didn't have a CCW to trade for it.



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Post  Guest on Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:26 pm

you can also trade in the bolt pistol, so bolter/lightning claw was the way to go

Now you can power sword/pistol/bolter

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Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:08 pm

Rhaevyn wrote:

hmm yes. 10 man unit maybe. save the tax from champ and rhino.


How many points is that? ... 302pts? That gives you a S5 small blast TL shot and 2 S8 AP 3 small blast ignores cover if you stay still, 4 HB shots, with ignores cover, if you move.

... and I'm reminded why this book is hard to work with... 300 points.

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:48 pm

its 287 points. - if you dont do anything with the champ. or buy vets.

I would probably just stick with the 5 man units tbh.
i'm just not real impressed with rhinos this edition. the assault changes, dismebark rules, combined with first blood issues. i sometimes field a couple and put a havoc launcher on it just for night fighting purposes. lighting up folks to get blasted is fun.


(btw 10 man squad with Vets of the long war, sonic blasters, 2 blast masters, champ with Lclaw and meltabombs in a rhino /w a havoc launcher - 351 points of sweet sweet excess)

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Post  Roland on Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:56 pm

If you had to take out the Rhino AND the squad.... that'd fix some of the issues.

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Post  judchic on Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:30 pm

canadin wrote:So Now, if you charge a Necron Chariot, do you hit rear armor, and then if he is surrounded, and you glance it down, does the necron Lord die to placement issues?

crap my secret for killing command barges is out...

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