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Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:11 pm

If you cast "Endurance" on a vehicle, does it benefit from FNP?

It would get a chance to get a hullpoint back due to "It will not die"... but would it get a 5+FNP as well???

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:14 pm

data integrity.: Fail.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  judchic on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:44 pm

better question, if you cast it on a predator that moves 12, does it get to fire all its weapons as normal because its relentless? or better yet, a land raider reedemer?

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Roland on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:17 pm

Nothing in blessings about not affecting vehicles.

It will not die and relentless should work.

Fnp affects unsaved wounds, which vehicles don't have.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:15 pm

Roland wrote:Fnp affects unsaved wounds, which vehicles don't have.

haha, good catch.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Daemonkin on Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:22 am

A relentless land raider, so not a pretty thought Shocked

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Rhaevyn on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:31 am

or stashes leman russes with the plasma cannon sponsons.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Roland on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:47 am

Rhaevyn wrote:or stashes leman russes with the plasma cannon sponsons.

*snicker*

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  UglyDuckling on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:35 pm

I do believe somewhere in the vehicles section of the BRB it says that all vehicles are relentless. If so Endurance should only provide the vehicle with It Will Not Die. The restrictions on moving and shooting with vehicles would still hold.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Aegwymourn on Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:44 pm

UglyDuckling wrote:I do believe somewhere in the vehicles section of the BRB it says that all vehicles are relentless. If so Endurance should only provide the vehicle with It Will Not Die. The restrictions on moving and shooting with vehicles would still hold.

I don't remember seeing that. Also why would they have a specific amount of guns able to be fired (with our without snap shot) depending on movement if they were all Relentless.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Matthew G on Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:07 pm

Vehicles have their own shooting rules thats based on how far they moved and what speed. I dont think making them relentless would have any affect.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  judchic on Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:57 pm

Endurance makes them count as not having moved for shooting even if they had moved prior. So normally a predator that moved 6 could fire only one weapon at bs or 12" and... (i can't remember if they can't fire at all or just snap fire) but being relentless would let them always move and fire all weapons. Not sure about the vehicles having a version of relentless already.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Roland on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:12 pm

We are all wrong. All vehicles already have relentless. Pg 71 brb.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  judchic on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:40 pm

so they can fire weapons based on how far they moved... except they are relentless which makes them ignore it...?

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Planes on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:48 pm

I think that is mostly in there so a Dread can fire off it's Auto Cannons or Plasma Cannons and still assault.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  dusktiger on Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:31 am

all vehicles are given Relentless, because the majority of vehicle weapons are type Heavy. which, if moved, can only snap fire. its just their way of saying "this is why vehicles with type Heavy weapons can fire them at normal BS if they moved.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  System Commander on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:37 am

Tom.. Dreads have always been able to fire and assault afterwards. You just need to give your dread a sword once in awhile Smile

It would be a nice bonus if you could cast endurance on a vehicle and alllow it to move 6" and fire everything or 12" and fire ine with the other snap shots. That would make it useful Smile It will not die on a vehicle seems a bit pointless to waste the other benwfits unless you got no other targets.

My heldrake hasnt regenerated a hp yet.. Sad

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  Lore Weaver on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:55 am

System Commander wrote:My heldrake hasnt regenerated a hp yet.. Sad

Roll better, it's the secret to winning. I've gotten hullpoints back on my forgefiend. Twice in one game even.

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Re: Endurance on a Vehicle

Post  System Commander on Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:58 am

I did roll 3 daemon saves while on my last hp against Tim.. That was exciting. Ive only been allowed two chances to roll IWND.. So my time is still coming Smile

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