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Post  Timbo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:59 am

Ok, what do we think of this one?

HQ
Chaos Lord, Mark of Nurgle, Terminator Armour, Blight Grenades, Melta Bombs, Combi-Melta 137

Elites
10 Chaos Terminators, 9 Combi-Plasmas, Melta Bombs 362
Mutilator 55
Mutilator 55

Troops
10 Chaos Space Marines, Meltagun, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 165
10 Chaos Space Marines, Meltagun, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 165
10 Chaos Space Marines, Flamer, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 160
10 Chaos Space Marines, Flamer, Autocannon, Melta Bombs 160
13 Chaos Cultists, 11 Autoguns, Heavy Stubber 78
13 Chaos Cultists, 10 Autoguns, Heavy Stubber 77

Fast Attack
Spawn, MoN 36
Spawn, MoN 36
Spawn, MoN 36

Heavy Support
Obliterator, MoN 76
Obliterator, MoN 76
Obliterator, MoN 76

1750

A bit light on anti-vehicle shooting, but not terrible. Lots of bodies, and lots of anti-infantry. A decent deathstar as well.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Lore Weaver on Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:19 am

Interesting.

I think it might be weak in Purge, Big Guns, and Scouring. You've got 10 kill points that are fairly easy to get, which includes your Fast Attack and Heavy Support.

If you dropped on unit of cultists and the Mutilators, you could take a heldrake with a baleflamer.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Guest on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:30 pm

Interesting list,

No squad vet power weapons?

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Post  Timbo on Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:28 pm

I'm not a fan of giving upgrades to the champs at all. Too many points for too little benefit.

@Mark I may agree with you. I'd have to test it and see. There's no one-shot VPs, except possibly the mutilators. Will an opponent focus his fire on spawn and mutilators when there are actual threats in his face? Maybe.

As for the Heldrake, I don't hate the unit but it's a dedicated anti-infantry thing which this list does not need more of. This is a list that might benefit more from an Aegis line than a Heldrake.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Timbo on Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:21 pm

Whenever I think I have a half-ass decent Chaos list made I hold it up next to another army list. For example:

1750 Point Orks

HQ
Warboss w. Power Klaw, Kombi-Scorcha, Cybork Body 100
Warboss w. Power Klaw, Kombi-Scorcha, Cybork Body 100
Aegis Defence Line w. Quad Gun 100
Elites
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
Troops
3 Meganobz w. 3 Kombi-Scorchas 135
Trukk w. Boardin’ Plank 40
3 Meganobz w. 3 Kombi-Scorchas 135
Trukk w. Boardin’ Plank 40
30 Slugga Boyz (or Shoota if you prefer) 180
30 Slugga Boyz 180
10 Grotz w. Runtherd 40
10 Grotz w. Runtherd 40
Fast Attack
Deffcopta w. Buzzsaw 60
Dakkajet w. Extra Shoota 120
‘Eavy Support
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85
Big Gunz Battery w. 3 Kannons, 3 Ammo Runtz, Runtherd, 2 Extra Grots 85

Total 1750 Points

This Ork list (courtesy of Phil Kelly) has more of everything good. More shooting, more bodies, fliers and flier defence, mobility, two mini-deathstars - that score. Sigh. Oh Chaos book.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  System Commander on Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:26 pm

The more i play with the chaos book.. The tougher it becomes to put on a happy face.. Hehe.

Going from grey knights to chaos is even worse.. I might revisit my road warrior style ork army.. The chaos book isnt livng.up.to my desire for assaulting willy nilly

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Timbo on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:38 pm

Robyn, I trademarked this list! No stealing!

P.S. Also, I'm getting a little tired of all your negativity regarding the Chaos book. It's fine. Just keep drinking the kool-aid.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Lore Weaver on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:44 pm

That ork list is killer. I'm a huge fan of 5-man loota squads, by the way. Definitely the way to go.

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That ork list is very tight.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Timbo on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:49 pm

Thanks Mark! Wait, is "very tight" better than "super tight"? What is the tight hierarchy these days?

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Lore Weaver on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:52 pm

Tightarchy? I'd share it, but it's fantastically tight.

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Roland on Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:52 pm

Timbo wrote:Thanks Mark! Wait, is "very tight" better than "super tight"? What is the tight hierarchy these days?

That's what he said...

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  System Commander on Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:10 pm

Are we back talking about bears again?

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Roland on Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:14 pm

If you're into that sorta thing....

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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Rhaevyn on Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:54 pm

here is something i was considering for league finals. armour saturation. I'de need to borrow one land raider. but i think it might catch some folks off guard.... I think Tim posted something similar in an earlier post.

Nothing but av 13 and 14 on the table turn 1. Cultists ride in style until the raiders go away or they need to snag an objective.



1795 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster

Total Roster Cost: 1791

Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)

Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)

Heavy Support: Chaos Predator (1#, 115 pts)
. . 1 Chaos Predator, 115 pts = (base cost 75 + Lascannon (each side) 40)

Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts

Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts

Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 350 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Terminators, 84 pts = 2 * 34 (base cost 31 + Mark of Khorne 3) + Lightning Claw x2 6 + Combi-Meltagun x2 10
. . . . 1 Terminator Champion, 36 pts = (base cost 33 + Mark of Khorne 3)
. . . . 1 Chaos Land Raider, 230 pts

Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts

Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts

Troops: Chaos Cultists (10#, 50 pts)
. . 9 Chaos Cultists, 36 pts = 9 * 4
. . . . 1 Cultist Champion, 14 pts

Fast Attack: Chaos Bikers (3#, 126 pts)
. . 2 Chaos Bikers, 64 pts = 2 * 22 (base cost 20 + Mark of Slaanesh 2) + Meltagun x2 20
. . . . 1 Biker Champion, 62 pts = (base cost 30 + Mark of Slaanesh 2 + Lightning Claw x1 15 + Combi-Meltagun 10) + Melta Bombs 5

HQ: Sorcerer (1#, 120 pts)
. . 1 Sorcerer, 120 pts = (base cost 60 + Mark of Slaanesh 15 + Sigil of Corruption 25 + Steed of Slaneesh 20)


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Re: 1750 Pure Chaos *super tight*

Post  Timbo on Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:48 am

Yeah, I posted a similar list but with 3 Vindis. You'll struggle against anything with numbers, but against a mech-heavy list you'll do fine. Those cultists are not going to have fun when those land raiders blow up. Wink

Necrons will take your lunch money too. Sad

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