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Post  System Commander on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:31 am

The dragon rumours are starting to sound pretty darn good. 2 butcher cannons and the ability to do vector strikes with str 10.. Awesome. Pricey at 170 points but damn.. 8 str 8 shots. I was starting to like the sounds of the daemonic artillery which has the same guns.. But the dragon just sounds fantastic.

That leads me to the new terminator rumours. You can make them chosen givng them 2 wounds.. But then with icons, marks etc you really make them customizable. Im pretty excited about having some rage fueled khorne terminators.. Woooo boy!

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Post  gluvzer on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:35 am

8 strength 8 shots! Yowch! That just may give the vendetta's "bang for your buck" a run for its money. Really, that kills a rhino outright and should take 2 hull points off armour 13 when it shoots.

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Re: Dragon flyer and chaos terminators

Post  System Commander on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:44 am

Yeah.. It sounds pretty crazy. Lightly armoured of course.. But it will chew up other flyers like no ones business.

170 points base cost is alot though.. But.. I definitely want to try one out.

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Post  gluvzer on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:00 am

170 effective points. Probably has 3 hull points too. Why does the Storm Talon have to be so shitty? Sad

Customizing terminators does fun!

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Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:03 am

12/10/10 I heard. Pretty durable for a flyer. My Dakkajet & Burna-Bomma both typically make it through a game.

Edit: Those 8 shots are twin-linked too, if I remember correctly.

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Post  Planes on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:13 am

So, if it can make Vector Strikes, does that make it akin to a flying dread or something?

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Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:24 am

Just about everything that can take butcher cannons are BS 3.
But the Dragon has strafing run, so BS 4 vs the ground.
I'm crossing my fingers that its AV12 not AV 11. 170 points plus upgrades is too much even for that many shots.

If you take Abbadon.. Chosen are troops choices. And chosen can be upgraded to 2W terminators. So chaos is getting its very own paladin-esque squad.
I hear it gets pricey in a hurry though. marks and icons and combi-spam.

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Re: Dragon flyer and chaos terminators

Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:28 am

Lore Weaver wrote:12/10/10 I heard. Pretty durable for a flyer. My Dakkajet & Burna-Bomma both typically make it through a game.

Edit: Those 8 shots are twin-linked too, if I remember correctly.

Its two butcher cannons. which are just heavy 4 str 8 ap 4. dont believe they are twin-linked...
pretty sure the 170 points just gets you 2 Reaper auto cannons. Which is 4 str 7 TL shots. @ 36" range.
the butchers are a purchasable upgrade... so 190 points for 4 more shots at +1 str. but loss of Twin-Linkage.

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Re: Dragon flyer and chaos terminators

Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:31 am

Planes wrote:So, if it can make Vector Strikes, does that make it akin to a flying dread or something?

the best quote i've seen so far is

"Think of a Dragon, made out of fire, and covered in platemail."

Which is just about the sexiest rumor I've heard so far.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:40 am

Rhaevyn wrote:Its two butcher cannons. which are just heavy 4 str 8 ap 4. dont believe they are twin-linked...
pretty sure the 170 points just gets you 2 Reaper auto cannons. Which is 4 str 7 TL shots. @ 36" range.
the butchers are a purchasable upgrade... so 190 points for 4 more shots at +1 str. but loss of Twin-Linkage.

In that case, 20pts well spent.


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Post  gluvzer on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:42 am

Rhaevyn wrote:

"Think of a Dragon, made out of fire, and covered in platemail."

Which is just about the sexiest rumor I've heard so far.

Sounds Terrible. This isn't Warhammer Fantasy. It's the Dark Future.

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Re: Dragon flyer and chaos terminators

Post  System Commander on Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:46 am

Butcher cannons arent twin linked.. Just heavy 4. Hmmm.. 190 points .. Ouch!

I really want to use terminators for troops.. Im just hoping that taing Abaddon isnt the only way. Im guessing it probably is though.. Hes just always so expensive..

I wish there was a way to get a better invul save besides the mark of tzeentch.. But looking from the rumours there doesnt appear to be. Feel no pain i guess.. But doesnt help against the things terminators fear most.. Vindicators, demolishers, manticores.. Those template ap2 things.

Im getting excited about the new codex.. Please lets have good possessed!

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Re: Dragon flyer and chaos terminators

Post  Rhaevyn on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:30 pm

iron halo equivalent for characters.

who knows what we will get from banners and such.

Besides SC. dont let the fluff rule you. if you want khorne Termies with a 4+ invul... rename the MoT to Blessing of the skull throne.

might have an announcement by the 22nd. games day is supposed to bump up the release of the white dwarf.

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Post  Roland on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:44 pm

From what I saw Codex drops 10/6 and the new kits 2 weeks after.

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Re: Dragon flyer and chaos terminators

Post  System Commander on Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:03 pm

I would like to... But. most of termies all have the worldeater FW torsos.. I wouldnt be able to field them with a different mark. No mark maybe.. thats just me though... Id feel to dirty. I really want to be able to field a khorne style army again.. The last codex made it a bit to hard.

From the sounds of it though they'll have enough options i shouldnt havento worry about it to much. If i can have the mark of khorne and and icon for FNP.. Ill be tickled.

Im really excited by the.daemon engines though for 120 and the two butcher cannon option. I hope they look decent but even if.they dont it should be pretty easy to model something scary.

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Post  Lord_Commander_Stash on Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:09 pm

8 str 8 shots? This heralds the coming of chaos orks. Lootas wont be able to stop themselves from trying to steal one, getting corrupted in the process.

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Post  Lore Weaver on Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:10 pm

Lord_Commander_Stash wrote:8 str 8 shots? This heralds the coming of chaos orks. Lootas wont be able to stop themselves from trying to steal one, getting corrupted in the process.

But Stash, it can't snapfire it's plasma cannons, so it sux.

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