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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Roland on Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:38 pm

Oh Tom, you had to be there. Since then its the same everytime.

Dark Angel > Chaos Marine (LASH!) > Orks (NOB BIKERS!) > Space Marines (VULKAN!) > Guard (everything!) > Space Wolves (Jaws!) > Grey Knights (everything!) > Necrons (EVERYTHING!)


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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Planes on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:03 pm

Upon reviewing the Chariot rules, it seems that you cannot issue or receive a challenge while charioteering.

Also, for anyone that thinks Necrons are bad in this edition: Look at IG and the Allies system. Specifically Battle Brothers allies.

Allies, page 112 wrote:
  • Are counted as being friendly units for the targeting of psychic powers, abilities and so on.

I issue orders to my Space Marrine/(Insert Chapter her). Pretty much any order they have works, save for "First Rank, Second Rank", as that is Las Guns only. "Fire on my Target" and "Bring it Down" are both viable. And the scary bit? You can pull this off with just taking the IG as a secondary detachment, just have your IG HQ tool around behind the scariest wall of Space Marines inside the relative safety of a Chimera.

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Roland on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:19 pm

I plan on putting mine (and my entire army) inside that 290 pt Fortress of Redemption at least once:)

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Planes on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:34 pm

I would like to see what would happen if I threw my Crons at that, truth be told. I mean, sure, there is a lot of concentrated fire that can come at me from that, but that is also your whole army inside one giant metal box, just waiting to collapse.

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  dusktiger on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:45 pm

Tom, youre making me want to start my guard detachment even sooner with that

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Roland on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:48 pm

Correction Tom in *4* AV 14 Metal boxes:)

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Guest on Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:02 pm

Planes wrote:Upon reviewing the Chariot rules, it seems that you cannot issue or receive a challenge while charioteering.

Also, for anyone that thinks Necrons are bad in this edition: Look at IG and the Allies system. Specifically Battle Brothers allies.

Allies, page 112 wrote:
  • Are counted as being friendly units for the targeting of psychic powers, abilities and so on.

I issue orders to my Space Marrine/(Insert Chapter her). Pretty much any order they have works, save for "First Rank, Second Rank", as that is Las Guns only. "Fire on my Target" and "Bring it Down" are both viable. And the scary bit? You can pull this off with just taking the IG as a secondary detachment, just have your IG HQ tool around behind the scariest wall of Space Marines inside the relative safety of a Chimera.

Check the FAQ. Orders are IG only.

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Planes on Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:09 pm

Ah, that does sound like something that would get locked down quick in the FAQs, just like Hestan not suping up IG Melta and Flamers.

And that's 4 AV 14 metal boxes that can't move (thus WS 0) and immediately adjacent to each other (go go Death Rays and Doomsday Cannon!).

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Roland on Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:53 am

agreed, but it also has a TL Icarus LasC manned by Telion.

I didnt say itd be unbeatable, but it'd be fun:)

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Roland on Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:21 am

Planes wrote:Upon reviewing the Chariot rules, it seems that you cannot issue or receive a challenge while charioteering.

Also, for anyone that thinks Necrons are bad in this edition: Look at IG and the Allies system. Specifically Battle Brothers allies.

Allies, page 112 wrote:
  • Are counted as being friendly units for the targeting of psychic powers, abilities and so on.

I issue orders to my Space Marrine/(Insert Chapter her). Pretty much any order they have works, save for "First Rank, Second Rank", as that is Las Guns only. "Fire on my Target" and "Bring it Down" are both viable. And the scary bit? You can pull this off with just taking the IG as a secondary detachment, just have your IG HQ tool around behind the scariest wall of Space Marines inside the relative safety of a Chimera.

Take a look at the Imperial Guard Faq. YOu can only issue orders to a friendly IG unit. Have to look at Blood Angels, but I believe they are nerfing all the Imperial Codexes so "Battle-Brothers" isnt such a huge step in Allies.

EDIT: Yep, Blood Chalice only affect friendly units from Codex: Blood Angels. Basically Battlebrothers can have independant char from one codex join a unit from the allied codex. Thats about it.

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Re: Good, bad and ugly

Post  Deadlytoaster on Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:33 am

Well that (they can confer some abilities to the unit they join) and psychic powers (some armies got a big boon) Allies are still pertty useful, also makes for some cool themed armies.

I had a good chuckle imagining the imperial guard commander issuing orders to space marines though Razz

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