6th Edition Ally Levels

so, i went to edit my original post and realised i *somehow* started it in the thunderdome section. wierd. anyways, this is the lists by rank:

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SPACE MARINES ALLIES:
Battle Brothers - these allies are truly friends and benefit from each other's Universal Special Rules, psychic powers, and everything, they act as one force.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Space Wolves
  
• Tau
  

Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Eldar
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Sisters of Battle
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Dark Eldar
  
• Necrons
  
• Orks
  

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CHAOS MARINES ALLIES:
Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Daemons
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Necrons
  
• Orks
  
• Tau
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Dark Eldar
  

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ORK ALLIES:
Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Chaos Marines
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Necrons
  
• Tau
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Daemons
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Dark Eldar
  
• Eldar
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Space Marines
  
• Space Wolves
  

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GREY KNIGHT ALLIES:
Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Eldar
  
• Guard
  
• Necrons
  
• SoB
  
• Space Marines
  
• Space Wolves
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Dark Eldar
  
• Orks
  

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SPACE WOLVES ALLIES:
Battle Brothers - these allies are truly friends and benefit from each other's Universal Special Rules, psychic powers, and everything, they act as one force.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Space Marines
  

Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Dark Angels
  
• Eldar
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Sisters of Battle
  
• Tau
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Dark Eldar
  
• Necrons
  
• Orks
  

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TAU ALLIES:
Battle Brothers - these allies are truly friends and benefit from each other's Universal Special Rules, psychic powers, and everything, they act as one force.

• Eldar
  
• Space Marines
  

Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Chaos Marines
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Necrons
  
• Orks
  
• Space Wolves
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Chaos Daemons
  
• Dark Eldar
  
• Sisters of Battle
  

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SISTERS OF BATTLE ALLIES:
Battle Brothers - these allies are truly friends and benefit from each other's Universal Special Rules, psychic powers, and everything, they act as one force.

• Imperial Guard
  

Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Blood Angels
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Space Marines
  
• Space Wolves
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Black Templar
  
• Dark Eldar
  
• Eldar
  
• Necrons
  
• Tau
  

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NECRONS ALLIES:
Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Chaos Marines
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Orks
  
• Tau
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Sisters of Battle
  
• Space Marine
  
• Space Wolves
  

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IMPERIAL GUARD ALLIES:
Battle Brothers - these allies are truly friends and benefit from each other's Universal Special Rules, psychic powers, and everything, they act as one force.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Dark Angels
  
• Sisters of Battle
  
• Space Marines
  
• Space Wolves
  

Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Chaos Daemons
  
• Chaos Marines
  
• Eldar
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Orks
  
• Tau
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Dark Eldar
  
• Necrons
  

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DARK ANGELS ALLIES:
Battle Brothers- these allies are truly friends and benefit from each other's Universal Special Rules, psychic powers, and everything, they act as one force.

• Black Templar
  
• Blood Angels
  
• Imperial Guard
  
• Space Marines
  

Allies of Convenience - these allies will fight together if they have a common foe, they do not get to benefit from each others USR or powers, and in effect act as independent armies on the table.

• Eldar
  
• Grey Knights
  
• Sisters of Battle
  
• Space Wolves
  
• Tau
  

Desperate Allies - these allies only fight in dire straights and gain no benefit from each other. you must roll a d6 at the start of the turn. if the roll is failed, your allies do nothing for the turn as they are too busy eyeballing you for betrayal.

• Necrons
  
• Orks
  

ok, this makes a little more sense.....

Don't like Daemons and CSM not being battle brothers. Just wrong.

I do like the differences based off the "home" army (Tau/SM are battle brothers, but SM/Tau are 2nd tier)

whoops! that was a typo on my part beau; they're battle brothers both ways. i'll fix that right now

Geeeeez Mike, it's like you've got something on your mind that's coming up soon.

Do they have Warhammer in Wadena?

lmao! oh man, this week's been hell for my sanity. between getting wedding stuff ready and work effectively increasing my work load to that of 2 people but still get it done in the same amount of time as before, my brain feels scrambled.

So they're prepping you for married life?

I dont like the battle brothers rules. TBH.

There are just too many units that just scream for the love of a sanguinary priest. 3 of them in fact. and a libby, and a unit of scouts.

I could handle BB if its the "Home" army granting its stuff to the "Allied" army and not the other way around....

Vulkan+Thundernators+Sang Priest in a Deep Striking LR?

*shrugs* It's gonna be part of the game, so I guess we all have to adapt.

I rather like how my armies are going to be with the Allies tho

Space Marines->Grey Knight or Guard
CSM->Daemons or Guard
and Orksies for fun.

The Allies rules will make it easy to transitiion to a new army too.

PS: 1000 posts, woo hoo!!

Oh, i'm down for allies, i think it adds another dimension to List building, and I'll be able to use the daemons i own, as well as opens up options for increasing the collection.

However, i don't like either Blood brothers, or grudging allies rules.
Why not just give a list of possible allies and treat them as a second, separate list on the table? BB is prone to abuses, and GA penalizes players based on Fluff . both of which are not healthy for the game.

Mike: Agree to both your points.

I like the new rules and it should be fun, but I'd have rather they went in the direction of a "tight" ruleset.

i think the overall effect is neat. it gives room for more narrative games; immagine if we have 2 guys playing and they both bring bregrudging allies and rool poor on both so they just sit there and your both stuck going "oh crap...". that could be a fun amusing game.

and sang priests sound like theyre getting nerfed mike; some of that stuff says its dropping to a 5+. so now you're in a 33% instead of 50% FNP save.

dusktiger wrote:and sang priests sound like theyre getting nerfed mike; some of that stuff says its dropping to a 5+. so now you're in a 33% instead of 50% FNP save.

It's still amazing for the points... Almost a requirement in fact. We'll see how it plays. The concept of having shooty 'crons backed up by an Ork Warboss in Mega Armour and a Nobz Squad in a Battlewagon.... Beefy.