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Is this unit cool?

Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:16 pm

Is a Royal Court of 5 Crypteks of Destruction with their Defensive Grenades and Pulse cool? for 205 pts?

I think the Overlord would have to chum with them (with his fancy Orb, Invul Save, and overall hand-to-hand prowess)

That's 5 S8 AP2 shots with a 36" Assault 1 range. Seems kinda nice, although pricey.

The Overlord would be... 90 + 10 (Scythe) + 45 (Phase Shifter) + 15 (Mindshackle) + 15 (Weave) + 30 (Orb) = 195
He's 2+, 3++ St7 Power Weapon, 3 attacks, Takes a dude out of combat.

That's a 400 pt unit O_O, reasonably resilient, long threat range, not scoring...

Now that I've written it out, it seems rather middling...

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Other Unit I'm thinking about is 10 Immortals with Tesla Carbines for 170 pts.

10 Tesla shots is killer against anything on foot, also good against open-topped armour 10/11 transports. I haven't math hammered it out, but I think the average is 9 hits. Throwing a 90pt Lord into that unit (total 260pts) seems not bad too, that's Scythe, Orb, Scarab guy. This makes for a tough-to-displace scoring unit that's effective against non-heavy threats.

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Post  Timbo on Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:54 pm

That first unit will be target priority 1 for the enemy. They need line of sight to shoot, so they will eat a crapload of fire. Maybe 2 pulses would help them live another turn and get an extra round of shooting. That would require a second court, but hey, courts are okay right?
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Post  Lore Weaver on Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:25 pm

Orb guy is 55 pts.

One survivability option might be the 50 pt lord with a weave. If you had other threats on the table, like 3 Annihilation barges and a pair of Triarch Stalkers, maybe a doom scythe or Monolith, opponent might have some target priority problems. A Monolith might be nice to reposition the unit.
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Post  Rhaevyn on Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:51 pm

Seems like overkill for tank hunting and limiting in that they all have to shoot the same thing.

Personally, I think that 2 destro crypteks (2 courts) in units of 5 warriors x5 is mighty scarey for only 130 points each.

With 5 of them, on top of the rest of your army, wraiths, scarabs, whatever your lord(s) is(are), that is a lot of long range threats your opponents have to deal with. and its assault, and scoring, so you can kite or position as needed.
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Post  Timbo on Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:12 am

I agree with Mike. 5X2 lances is better than 2X5 lances. Also they put extra bodies into scoring units which isn't a bad thing. I'm totally underwhelmed by immortals. Nobody takes tactical marines because they want to. Tactical marines are superior to immortals in almost every way.
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Post  Lore Weaver on Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:08 am

I like that idea too, but it might get FAQ'd out of existence :-P

10 tactical marines have 3 Heavy Bolters and FNP? :-)
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Post  Timbo on Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:13 pm

Tactical marines have 3 melta weapons and can't be swept;)
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