Robyn's Daemon List - New League

In the words of Mr. T "I pity the fool that tries to assault that list".

Look like it will be pretty devastating in CC. Not sure if the ranged units you have will really end up being worth it, though I would at least keep the flamers. Templates could be nice anti-horde shooting.

Otherwise, it looks nice. and by 'nice', I mean 'scary'.

Some thoughts as a Daemon vet:

Bloodletters are not a good icon holder unit. They die easily, and have to use cover to survive, often forcing you to move them back (which is terrible for a non-fleeting cc unit). Everyone will want to shoot them, as we all know what bloodletters will do to MEQ and other trooops, especially on the charge. Plague bearers or horrors are better at this, they will be able to move forward because of saves and toughness, meaning your CC can get closer when they come in.
I would not take horrors in units smaller than 10. I started with running smaller units, but because of short range (18) and the dangers fo DSing outta range, wasting them, I take them in large vanguard units, for massed fire, and a safer all or nothing daemon view.
Something to think about for skarbrand is that bloodletters strike at init 4 if they are charged. This means that often, if someone knows Skarbrand's rules, he will take massed fire, or ppl will put their troops in terrain (letters dont have grenades!) this means the enemy will get to re-roll all all those attacks on your poor T4 5+ save expensive dudes! I find skarbrand is a really risky unit to take, as it tells your opponent your strategy, but he does work pretty well with lotsa daemonettes, them being I6 and having grenades (this is referred as the "pimps'n hoes" tactic, my favorite titles manuever ).
Bloodthirsters are fine anyway, they put the fear of god in the enemy, are often faster than fleet GDs, and are tough at T6!
Flamers are totering on the brink of broken in my oppinion. If not for the fact that they are so risky, they obliterate MEQ units wholesale! I take 3 units of 3, that way, you can go ballz out andput em right next to an enemy unit, and if you are lucky, they hit and destroy said unit. If not, so what? 105 points is worth the risk, compared to the 100s of points they can immolate in a turn. And if they survive, S and T4 and 2 base attacks aint bad!
I'm allways unsure of the right combo of a DP. often a khorne DP, iron hide and mark of khorne is cheap and powerful, but my favorite combo is a DP of slaanesh with lash, and breath! lash those enemies in a neat row, and flame em to death!

Overall, Daemons work best when you are willing to risk it all. Playing them defensively will almost allways get you killed (unless you are running the tally of nurgle or Tzeentch fateeweaver-zilla lists. I'm sure I have more tips, but this is all I can think of right now!

one option for some added anti tank is to take bolt on the horrors and just run them in min size squads as you are. I have heard that the changeling is the best upgrade for the points in the book, so you might want to think about picking him up. The bloodthirster is one of the daemons most effective anti-tank units, so i would really consider adding one over the heralds and the skulltaker. You really need some plague bearers for taking objectives, but i guess thats not an option. From what i have gathered the best mark for a prince is nurgle, but im assuming you will be sticking with khorne. My 2 cents.

I ran the same idea for horrors Cam and Robyn, the 5 man min with bolt, but remember, thats BS3 for the bolt. I find it then wastes the benefit of having all those mass shots, into a wound deliverance package for a bad bs shot. Also think about what is coming in per turn, a bunch of smaller units means less room to jump in, and division for first turn wave.
I agree about the bloodthirsters. wings and and MC is the best option for anti tank Daemons really have, you dont want your horrors missing, to see a tank take out chunks of your army piecemeal.

Hey Robyn, i just realized that i have 7 plague bearers, and and 11 nurglings. Wanna trade me for some IG stuff? A couple of the plague bearers have paint on them, but ill strip them so long as you are willing to trade for stuff thats NIB.

Sooo... After using bloodcrushers for the first time last night, i'd have to say they are a must have for daemons.

Rediculous unit! Tough ( 4 and skulltaker on jugg took on an entire 1500 pts of marine shooting for a round, only losing 1 crusher), hits hard ( killed a dread, a tactical squad, a sternguard squad, a librarian, and a scout squad)!

Now I know why all the tactica's suggest you take a million of these killers.

don't get too excited on only 1 success

The plural of anecdote isn't data. The singular of anecdote isn't really anything at all...

Thanks for the snide remark

As a daemon player who has more than quite a few battles under his belt, this unit fulfills a much needed niche: tough, lotsa wounds, and dangerous in melee. Many daemon units have some of these, but not all, blood-crushers can really be a core unit.
And I don't think I am too forward in rejoicing for the unit's success.

Wasn't supposed to be anything serious. Just a tongue in cheek statement that along the lines that there is a large evidentiary gap between a unit doing well in a single game and taking a million of them every single game.

There's a skeptical saying that the plural of anecdote is not data, which is a slap to the woo peddlers and faith healers who rely upon testimony of "satisfied customers" where they say the product worked for them. Even when there's a "lot" of testimony, it's an unreliable form of evidence that is inadequate to substantiate the claims.

Likewise, stellar performance in a single game is inadequate to substantiate the claim that a unit is worth taking to extremes.

Wasn't really meant in all seriousness, wasn't meant to be snide, just meant to reign in some overly enthusiastic optimism.

Fair enough. I think I will remain optimistic though, as I don't plan to play a million games to scientifically prove the unit is the best. This unit did the best right out of the gate than any other unit I've run yet with daemons, and it wasnt becuase of good scatter or redicoulous saves (i failed about 1/3rd of my 3+ saves). The unit is just a shyte brick house.

yeah, the metal models are pricy... I plan to get around that with Ogre kingdoms iron guts, 40 bucks for 4, and they look like they crush stuff! add some horns and such, and you have unique daemonic dudes for cheap.