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Post  Administratum on Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:17 pm

Hey guys, im wondering if there are any new amendments to the space marine codex that do not allow the use of forge world units, from the imperial armor books. In particular i was interested in the damocles command vehicle, but army builder told me it was an illegal selection.

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Re: Damocles command vehicle

Post  Paz on Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:28 pm

Still legal Cam. In the apocalypse forge world book (which I'm pretty sure its in) it says you can still use all the forge world vehicles in regular 40k games.

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Post  smackman on Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:08 am

It was my understanding that you needed permission from your opponent to use FW rules for models.

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Post  Administratum on Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:29 pm

At one point they did away with the need to ask your opponents permission, but i dont know what the new apocalypse book says...

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Re: Damocles command vehicle

Post  ice on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:51 pm

In the IAA book it says "We have suggested that you ask your opponent when using super heavy vehicles." And being that the command vehicle in this book is a rhino, it doesn't classify as a super heavy vehicle. I'd say you would have no problem using it Cam. cheers

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Post  Guest on Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:59 pm

It's not in a GW Codex, and wouldn't be allowed in any GW GT's so I would expect opponent's permission to be sought.

I'd also expect it to be granted by most players, but I would say it needs permission.

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Post  System Commander on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:13 pm

Is the Damocles an Apocalypse unit or a regular one?

If your playing an Apocalypse game, pretty much anything from FW is free game. If you paid the money for it, better your use out of it. WHen they did they update the rules for the Damocles, becasue they probably have dropped the price of them a bit I would imagine.

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Post  Administratum on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:37 pm

yea i found it in the forge world apocalypse book. In essence i think that you can use it for regular games, and as long as the tournament organizers allow forge world units. The problem with it now is that some of its rules are only described in the apocalypse rule book (preliminary bombardment, as well as the wording for its modifier to deepstrike rules) so i dont think using it in regular 40k games would be a good idea.

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Post  System Commander on Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:08 am

Ahh yes, that make sense.

In a regular apocalypse games, there would be no problem at all using it... anyhting in the Imperial Amor Apc book is fair game. For a regular game though, you'd prob have to run it past your opponent, only becasue its an Apoc unit.

How come you wanted to tak eon, jsut for coolness? I checked out the rules and fron I can tell, its a regular rhino, but you can use it to direct an Orbital bombardment you buy and potentially a prelim bombarment?

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Post  Administratum on Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:49 am

I was just thinking about alternative hq units, no real reason other than i have always thought it was kinda cool.

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Post  System Commander on Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:25 am

It definitely is cool, and as an HQ choice.. pretty interesting.

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Post  Guest on Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:32 am

It's still a decent looking model. Just use it as a Rhino for a command squad or something like that.

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Post  Veyure on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:28 pm

Just to point out Cam, the DAMOCLES is not just apoc vehicle. It is found in Imperial Armour 2. I really don't think it's too strong for regular games and i wouldn't care if you used it.

IA:2 also makes a distinction on how Orbital Bombardment is used in both Apoc and regular games so it must be allowed in them.

There is also a link to the pdf revision of IA 2 here it is
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/pdf/IA2Update28Aug.pdf

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Re: Damocles command vehicle

Post  Administratum on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:24 pm

Thanks Greg, that link was a huge help.

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Re: Damocles command vehicle

Post  Veyure on Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:55 pm

always there to help people who deserve it.

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Post  Administratum on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:31 pm

Thanks man, your all heart =)

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